Sinatra / Capitol Sound Quality and General Discussion: "Where Are You?" (1957 album)*

Hey Matt, I missed this thread as well... I have a 9 o'clock stereo copy. Stay tuned.

 

Thanks Bob, and Matt. Great thread. The recommendations are much appreciated.

 

I'm glad to be of help. It's always nice to read these discussions, they made me hunt down all the Walsh CDs a few years ago ... only two of them left on my list. I wonder why Close To You and Point Of No Return are so rare, while others are still available on Amazon!

 

The Walsh Close to You and More was always extremely rare in the US. It went out-of-print long before the other concept album CDs. One explanation I've seen is that Sinatra himself was displeased by the inclusion of "There's a Flaw in My Flue" as a bonus track, but I don't know if that's the reason.

Am I wrong that Point of No Return is still available (—> amazon.co.uk/dp/B000002UDN)?
Did you mean instead Sinatra's Swingin' Session!!! and More? That's the other early Walsh CD which appears to not be (or never have been?) available in the UK.

See my list here —> Larry Walsh EMI-Capitol CDs: Amazon UK links.

 

I bought Sinatra's Swingin' Session and the Sinatra Christmas Album (which is the same as A Jolly Christmas) last year, the only two that are missing are Close To You and Point Of No Return. I know the latter is available from third party sellers on Amazon, but I'm always a little sceptical when they are selling rare CDs as "new". Even CDs from Amazon itself are not always new. I recently bought a CD from The Jam on Amazon.de that was completely scratched, as was the replacement they sent me. The strange thing is that both CDs were sealed, but not FACTORY sealed ... they were clearly sealed by someone else! I wondere where Amazon is getting its supplies from in some cases!

However, I see that Point Of No Return is now available for 12.71 Pounds ... maybe I should give it a try. Last week the cheapest offer was over 20 Pounds!

Edit: The seller of Point Of No Return doesn't ship to Germany ...

 

You're welcome. Can't believe I didn't notice earlier that rainbow was missing, about the time I was sorting for a keeper thru various copies of this album some months back.

 

Loving the thoroughness of the page, Matt!

 

GOOD GOING!

 

$20 seems like a very good price for that disc alone. The rest are gravy...

 

Matt, overall how is the Japanese Where Are You? CD? I had been looking at the same auction. From the clips it sounds very similar to the D20 rainbow spires pressing. Could it be a "notable outlier"?--unless it sounds more or less like a unfutzed transfer of the original stereo mix to CD, and isn't different enough from the LPs to count.

 

I haven't played the disc in years. Was never in love with the sound, though it wasn't offensive either. Maybe should give it another listen. I like having it for being the only disc of its kind (release/mix history wise), and for it not sounding processed.

 

I found a copy pretty easily.

 

Voyle. The first Sinatra album Dave "produced" was ONLY THE LONELY.

Not taking away anything from Capitol's producers, but Frank was truly producer on these albums. If anything, Capitol might have had more "say" on some of the material issued on singles...

 

The book in the Concepts 16-CD box set says the producer was Dave Cavanaugh. So does the sleeve in the MFSL LP box set: "Produced by David Cavanaugh." (Pete Kline is credited with research on that set.)

However, Leonard Mustazza's book, Ol' Blue Eyes: A Frank Sinatra Encyclopedia, credits BOTH Cavanaugh and Voyle Gilmore as producers on Where Are You?. Perhaps this was a trial run for Cavanaugh, and that is why no producer credits appeared on the album? For sure, Cavanaugh took over completely as Sinatra's producer with Only the Lonely the following year.

As Martin says, Sinatra was always his own producer at Capitol, in fact if not name.

 

Re: The Larry Walsh 'Close to You and More' CD

That was NOT my experience twenty years ago. Perhaps the Internet has made it easier, but I have seen several reports over the years from people who had extreme difficulty locating a copy. Consider yourself lucky.

 

I had forgotten there was no producer credit on this album. I remembered Voyle was still producer following this, with Cavanaugh credited by ONLY THE LONELY, and going forward.

 

This is the find of the year Matt. Congrats!

That wonderful pencil drawing on the back cover is also used on the back of the MOFI version, which I now own. Was that on the original LP?

Yes...I'm only 2 1/2 months into my Frank obsession and I already own 3 CD versions of Where Are You (Norberg, Larry Walsh and the MOFI CD)......