Carrie Fisher suffers heart attack on plane, dies at age 60*

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  1. ralphb

    ralphb "First they came for..."

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    Addiction sucks and it's a monster trailing you throughout your life..
     
  2. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    That is very sad. More news on Deadline:Hollywood & Variety...

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    Carrie Fisher Had Cocaine, Heroin, Ecstasy In Her System: Deadline Hollywood
    Carrie Fisher Had Cocaine, Heroin, Ecstasy in Her System, Autopsy Shows

    Cocaine is bad news for anybody at this age, because it leaves deposits in your arteries and also stresses out the heart from elevating your respiration. Awful news.
     
  3. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    GIRL!
    You should know better....
    NEVER MIX!
     
  4. swandown

    swandown Under Assistant West Coast Forum Resident

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    Gotta wonder if the stress of being in the new Star Wars movie is what caused her to relapse in the first place.
     
  5. tman53

    tman53 Vinyl is an Addiction

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    She's 60, in poor health and does this, come on. Good judgement not her strong suit.
     
  6. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

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    Addicts never have what you and I call good judgment.

    Andy Gibb had to choose between Victoria Principal (then literally considered one of the sexiest women on earth) and coke. Guess what he chose.
     
  7. tman53

    tman53 Vinyl is an Addiction

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    Yeah, I hear that but someone who's made it to 60, addict or not should know better. I guess the addiction made the consequences seem insignificant.
     
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  8. ralphb

    ralphb "First they came for..."

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    If your first sentence were true there would be a lot less addicts. Knowing better? You do and you don't. I think if you haven't been there either personally or with a friend/family member it's really hard to grasp how difficult it is to get and stay sober. Trashman put it best in post #581.
     
  9. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    You do not know what leads anyone to use drugs. People do not sit down one day and say "Gee, I know these hard drugs are bad, but i'll risk it anyway". It's more like "I hurt so bad, I just want it to stop. Make me numb so I can deal with it.".
     
  10. Standoffish

    Standoffish Smarter than a turkey

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    Unless she died as a victim of foul play, I don't give a soop how she died. Why would anyone outside of her family even need to know?

    By every account I've heard she was a nice person, and she certainly brought a little joy into the world. Let's stop the judgments and let her rest in peace.
     
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  11. Hagstrom

    Hagstrom Please stop calling them vinyls.

    My Princess had some problems but I'll always love her!
     
  12. David Campbell

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    It just makes me sad , but doesn't change the way I feel about Carrie and her Legacy. She isn't the first extraordinary person to die before their time because of drug addiction. Sadly she won't be the last.
     
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  13. Mr. Fernando

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    Not in every case. Some of it starts as social drug use with friends.
     
  14. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    You do not know what leads anyone to use drugs. People do not sit down one day and say "Gee, I know these hard drugs are bad, but i'll risk it anyway". It's more like "I hurt so bad, I just want it to stop. Make me numb so I can deal with it.".
    Whatever. No one sits down one day, goes to a party, or hangs out with friends, and says they are going to become a drug addict.

    In the case of Carrie Fisher, she suffered from bi-polar disorder. It is well-known that many people with mental illness self-medicate with illicit drugs.

    People are so damn quick to judge others based on scant, or no information. People who judge others base it on their own sense of morality, conveniently forgetting that everyone has a different life.
     
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  15. pdenny

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  16. Mr. Fernando

    Mr. Fernando Forum Resident

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    Agreed.

    Absolutely.

    Agreed. I was just pointing out that isn't always about self-medicating. Much it does start as social use that becomes an addiction but people also self-medicate. It's a case by case thing.
     
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  17. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    My view is simply that, however someone got addicted, the first thing they need to do is get off the stuff and deal with the root causes of it second. No need to moralize it or rationalize it. Becoming an addict is not a choice. Even if you become addicted through casual/social use, you don't do it as a choice. So, to say someone had a choice is wrong.
     
  18. TeacFan

    TeacFan Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    Could have used a trainer/cook/nutritionist. Guess she was just too busy. :shake:
     
  19. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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  20. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member

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    Presumably it was one-stop shopping for someone in London for only a few days. Where's would she get the phone contact?
     
  21. Don't use any of those three. Don't even start.
     
  22. sunspot42

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    Might have contributed to her death. Surely didn't help. But the incident that directly led to her death could just have easily have been the episode of severe sleep apnea. And her lengthy history of drug abuse certainly had done a lot of damage over the years - the incident they detected might not have contributed much. Too many variables to say one way or another.
     
  23. PaulKTF

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    Untreated Sleep Apnea can kill you but it's much less likely to kill you if you aren't doing drugs that significantly weaken your heart in the first place. By both doing the drugs and not properly treating her sleep apnea she was putting herself in a very risky situation where she was doing (at least) two things that were putting a huge strain on her heart on a regular basis.
     
  24. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Being too busy is all the more reason for her to hire a cook at the very least. It's not as if she couldn't have afforded it.
     
  25. adm62

    adm62 Senior Member

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    If she wanted drugs she certainly wouldn't go to London for them as she lived in L.A.
     
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