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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, May 29, 2015.

  1. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

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    if that's Boulez conducting those songs for Soprano and Orchestra it doesn't get any better than that
     
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  2. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    I prefer HVK. Reiner IIRC does some strange things with tempo on his recording.
     
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  3. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    I think I also prefer the sound quality of the Karajan. My copy is an old London CD from the 80s and I prefer it to the Reiner on Living Stereo SACD. To be fair the Reiner recording is five years older and I believe one of the earliest stereo recordings.
     
  4. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    I think you are correct. It is one of the earliest stereo recordings.
     
  5. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Stanley Kubrick would agree with your preference for the Karajan/Vienna Philharmonic recording of Also Sprach Zarathustra. It's the one he used in the soundtrack for his film, 2001: A Space Odyssey. (The soundtrack album, however, used the Karl Böhm/Berlin Philharmonic recording.)
     
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  6. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    I did not know that. Thanks. I suppose HvK would have asked higher royalties...
     
  7. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

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    Berlin
    The reason they didn’t use that recording for the soundtrack LP is because Decca was sort of embarrassed of being associated with a commercial film. That’s the story I heard. When the film became a big success, they changed their mind though and started using the “2001” publicity to their own advantage.

    I think when that soundtrack eventually came out on CD, they used the Karajan version again.

    My favourite recording is Karajan’s 1973 remake on DG, which is uncharacteristically detailed for a DG recording and beats both the Reiner and Karajan’s earlier Decca recording by several stratospheres, both in terms of interpretation and sound.
     
  8. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    Have you tried the recent Karajan/Strauss recordings 11-cd/Blu Ray Audio of the first 6 cds box? Now I am tempted to get it.
     
  9. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    NYC
    I think this is the one that I have, though on my DG CD the recording date is listed as 1974.
     
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  10. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

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    Berlin
    1974, right :) I was reciting from memory.
     
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  11. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

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    I haven’t heard the Blu-ray, but I would assume it’s the same transfer as the standalone 24/96 “studio master” hi-res download, and that one is the best I’ve heard this recording sound :) Better than the mid-90s “Originals” CD transfer.
     
  12. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

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    As a space nerd I like that Also Sprach has spawned so many space themed covers through the various recordings by different conductors/orchestras.
     
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  13. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Now enjoying the another CD from the above box set. Once again, this is absolutely lovely playing and sound.
     
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  14. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    I don't have a single CD featuring Angelich.
     
  15. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    If you are a fan of Rachmaninoff, I urge you to grab this CD.

    And if you are a fan of Brahms, I also urge you grab the above 10 CD box set. It's under $18 new from amazon.
     
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  16. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    Wow that box is a bargain. I am going to order it. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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  17. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

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    Speaking of Rachmaninov I played Richter's Carnegie Hall Prelude Op.23 No.1 and Op.32 No.9, 10, 12 recently. Completely blown away by the performances. Ashkenazy was fresh in my mind, and IMHO it was quite a let down; just bland all around with little dynamics and tonal color.
     
  18. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

  19. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    NYC
    Richter's Rachmaninoff is superb!

    If you want some in much better sound, for under $10 new - https://www.amazon.com/Rachmaninov-Preludes-Etudes-Tableaux-Sergei/dp/B003CP1SRE
     
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  20. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

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  21. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Yeah, I have that one too. It has the same performances. First issued on CD on Olympia, then Regis, then Alto - all the same performances.
     
  22. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

  23. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    NYC
    Yes, the set filled in a number of holes in my collection as well. I think you will really enjoy the set. I know over the years we almost always agree on classical music performances.
     
  24. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

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    I'm home to check on this, these are also on the Eurodisc box. Some of those labels start to get a bit confusing with the number of times they changed name/transferred ownership :)

    I'll play it afterwards to see if the Sony mastering is better.
     
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  25. alankin1

    alankin1 Forum Resident

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    Philly
    Now playing:
    Igor Stravinsky – Petrouchka (1911), Le Chant du rossignol, Quatre etudes (London / Decca Records)
    — Armas Maiste, piano, James Chompson, cornet, Timothy Hutchins, flute, Robert Early, trumpet, Ellis Wean, tuba – Orchestre symphonique de Montreal – Charles Dutoit

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