Sussudio: would've it been accepted if anyone but Phil Collins had sung it?

I’d like to hear Thom Yorke do a cover.

Man I hate that song - total earwig.

 

I'd say, the only thing Collins and McCartney have in common, is they were once in a movie together. But, since the only place I run into anybody who even thinks about Paul on a year-to-year basis, it's more than likely Collins even being spoken about is just enough to irritate these folks who feel discussions like this are just a waste of brain cells that could have otherwise been used talking about McCartney.

Is there anybody from that era who ignites such a derision on this board out of one song, with a steady catalog of quality songwriting successes behind them? Ya know, Amy Grant is a respected artist with a tremendous reputation for her work...BUT, she DID put out a single once outside of her niche called, "Baby, Baby", so perhaps we should start a thread to bash that one for being vapid and unworthy of her best work.

 

A South Park classic!

 

I'm doing a Genesis thread at the moment, and it has left me feeling quite defensive toward Phil .... so much unnecessary dislike lol

 

Now that was even worse than su-su-su-susudio lol

 

I'm just not much of a fan of the song. I like Phil's voice and don't think I would enjoy the song with another singer.

 

Only to pick it back up with Another Day in Paradise and I Wish It Would Rain Down.

 

well, not sure how I can satisfy you in regards to a song about a meaningless word. Let me just describe to you how the song makes me feel. It's like one of those jingles that if it sticks in your head you'd practically get a lobotomy in order to extract it.

My theory on the song. They were goofing around in the studio. He did this lame song called "In The Studio" Which they realized was way too contrived to be a releasable song, so he changed it to SuSuSudio. Dumb.

 

It is supposed to be representative of a girls name .... the whole song revolves around that idea.
It's fine to not like the song, but just because you don't like the name chosen hardly makes it stupid.
Do you go up to girls named Delores, Sinita or Daphne or something and just say "you're stupid"?

 

well as the listener I get to decide if that works for me. It doesn't. Actually it absolutely amazes me that anyone would go so far out on a limb to defend this tragically weak song.

 

or, that somebody would go to such great and ridiculous lengths to attack it
a tisket a tasket

- edit and you avoided the point too

 

"Sussudio" is also the only song on the album (and the majority of his solo career to that point) that wasn't downbeat or thoughtful in some way; even though it's his most upbeat album. Even casual fans knew at the time that it wasn't all that typical.

 

All I've done is stated my distaste for the song. Do you normally expect everyone to like every song you develop an unhealthy fondness for?

 

A couple of interesting lists... a Rolling Stone readers' poll ranking Phil's top songs:
Readers’ Poll: The 10 Best Phil Collins Songs – Rolling Stone
10. The Roof is Leaking
9. Don't Lose My Number
8. I Wish It Would Rain Down
7. Sussudio
6. Another Day in Paradise
5. Take Me Home
4. Easy Lover
3. I Don't Care Any More
2. Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)
1. In the Air Tonight

And a list of the top-downloaded Phil songs in the digital era:
Phil Collins' biggest hits of the digital age revealed
6. Another Day in Paradise
5. You Can't Hurry Love
4. You'll Be in My Heart
3. Easy Lover
2. Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)
1. In the Air Tonight

Both lists seem to have a pretty even mix of upbeat songs and those sappy ballads everyone seems to hate.

 

and again you are avoiding the point.... or didn't even bother to read what I wrote ...

It isn't a favourite song of mine, but it's ok.

You stated that it is stupid because of the name.

I also stated that it is fine if you don;t like the song but ...

I stated that it is purely representative of a girls name, and on that point do you go up to girls with unusual names and call them stupid.

So where you got the mumbo jumbo from, I am not altogether sure

 

Yes, a girl no doubt the younger sister of Naminanu and Abacab.


Not sure Phil's thing with nonsensical words. I guess he's been doing it all his life, though.

 

My personal favourite Collins songs are (and I don't really care if anybody thinks they're drippy or anything else)

In The Air Tonight
This Must Be Love
The Roof is Leaking/Droned/Hand In Hand
I Missed Again
I Don't Care Anymore
I Cannot Believe Its True
Thru These Walls
Long Long Way To Go
Who Said I Would
Inside Out
Take Me Home
Hang In Long Enough
I Wish It Would Rain Down
Another Day In Paradise
Dance Into The Light
Wear My Hat

But I am still familiarising myself with the albums after But Seriously

 

The Billboard chart tells another story, with sappy ballads taking the top 5 spots based solely on Billboard's measure of "chart performance" and "In the Air Tonight" not showing up until #15.

1. Groovy Kind Of Love
Phil Collins
Peaked at #1 on 10.22.1988

2. Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now)
Phil Collins
Peaked at #1 on 4.21.1984

3. Separate Lives
Phil Collins and Marilyn Martin
Peaked at #1 on 11.30.1985

4. One More Night
Phil Collins
Peaked at #1 on 3.30.1985

5. Another Day In Paradise
Phil Collins
Peaked at #1 on 12.23.1989

6. Two Hearts
Phil Collins
Peaked at #1 on 1.21.1989

7. Sussudio
Phil Collins
Peaked at #1 on 7.6.1985

8. Easy Lover
Philip Bailey With Phil Collins
Peaked at #2 on 2.2.1985

9. I Wish It Would Rain Down
Phil Collins
Peaked at #3 on 3.31.1990

10. Something Happened On The Way To Heaven
Phil Collins
Peaked at #4 on 10.6.1990

11. Do You Remember?
Phil Collins
Peaked at #4 on 6.30.1990

12. Don't Lose My Number
Phil Collins
Peaked at #4 on 9.28.1985

13. Take Me Home
Phil Collins
Peaked at #7 on 5.10.1986

14. You Can't Hurry Love
Phil Collins
Peaked at #10 on 2.5.1983

15. In The Air Tonight
Phil Collins
Peaked at #19 on 8.15.1981

16. I Missed Again
Phil Collins
Peaked at #19 on 5.23.1981

17. You'll Be In My Heart
Phil Collins
Peaked at #21 on 7.17.1999

18. Hang In Long Enough
Phil Collins
Peaked at #23 on 1.12.1991

19. Everyday
Phil Collins
Peaked at #24 on 3.19.1994

20. Both Sides Of The Story
Phil Collins
Peaked at #25 on 11.27.1993

21. I Don't Care Anymore
Phil Collins
Peaked at #39 on 3.26.1983

22. Hero
David Crosby & Phil Collins
Peaked at #44 on 7.17.1993

23. Dance Into The Light
Phil Collins
Peaked at #45 on 11.2.1996

24. Who Said I Would
Phil Collins
Peaked at #73 on 2.16.1991

25. Can't Stop Loving You
Phil Collins
Peaked at #76 on 2.1.2003

26. It's In Your Eyes
Phil Collins
Peaked at #77 on 4.19.1997

27. I Cannot Believe It's True
Phil Collins
Peaked at #79 on 5.28.1983

 

I tend to think if I ran into a girl with that name I'd have no hesitation telling her it's a stupid name.

 

Surely you are aware of the fun people have with the name Scott

 

My nightly prayer as a teenager in the 1980s: "...and God bless mother and father, and lastly dear lord, please give Phil Collins the air time he deserves. Amen."

 

Do you have any substantiation for that?

 

Gee, I wonder what the Rolling Stones rag had to say about earth, Wind & Fire, because that's where Phil stole his horn section from.

 

A compliment from Miles Davis is sure to make a huge lot of musicians envious.

 

Hey my name is Mark ... Friend of the moaning crows ... every time I walk past someone who hits themselves with a hammer and swears , It sounds like they're calling me loudly .... I mean names are funny things