The Fall - Album by Album by Single by Cassette thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jim B., Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Disco Robot

    Disco Robot Forum Resident

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    It's too bad Beggars couldn't keep up the Omnibus format that Wonderful.. And This Nations...got, but it's still a very nice package. Only listened once so far, but sounds great.
     
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  2. Pavol Stromcek

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    I gave the new Bend Sinister LP a listen last night - just the first disc/main album. It's a very quiet pressing, and without comparing it to anything, I felt like it sounded really good. I'm going to have to a/b this LP with my old CD, because I swear I was hearing a slight boost in the mid range.
     
  3. BlueSpeedway

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    I’d say there’s a mid range boost judging by the CD. The only track I thought it made less preferable was R.O.D., which has lost a bit of its distant, hollow, sinister vibe and is more “rock”: with more going on, but I liked it with less body, or whatever I mean, god only knows. I do like the new CD though and prefer it all over the old ones except R.O.D.
     
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  4. Pavol Stromcek

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    Interesting! So that would confirm that I wasn't imagining this mid-range boost. I'll compare it to the old CD when I get some time so that I can hear just how dramatic the difference is. I did like what I was hearing while listening to it, though.
     
  5. BlueSpeedway

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    Yeah the source is obviously good, the old Beggars Fall CDs all sound kind of lifeless; not bad exactly, just... gutless. I also FWIW prefer the Omnibus remastered CDs for Wonderful and Grace over the original vinyl as well as the old CDs.
     
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  6. BlueSpeedway

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    God, the "rough mix" of DKR FAUSTUS on the new Bend Sinister is fantastic. I had to listen to it three times before continuing with the disc..
     
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  7. Exit Flagger

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    Is Imperial Wax Solvent a U.K. Record Store day only release?
     
  8. octophone

    octophone immaterial girl

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    It is, yes. Well, I don't know if it's UK only but it's RSD for sure.
     
  9. octophone

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    The new Bend Sinister is a delight - I love what's been done here - it just takes a layer of grime off of the album, like washing a window. The results are terrific.
     
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  10. Hollow Horse

    Hollow Horse To pretend to be happy could only be idiocy

    Been listening to Slates, Grotesque and TWAFWOTF of late in a bout of nostalgia. Of the latter, I don't like the remastered versions much. For songs like O! Brother I want the original thanks!
     
  11. BlueSpeedway

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    The singles for the TWAFWOTF era I agree are unbeatable on original UK vinyl, but I prefer the Omnibus CD remaster of the album itself over any other version on CD or vinyl I've heard.
     
  12. Willowman

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    Looking at my box of 45s, a facsimile of the Marquis Cha Cha Single would be nice for a future RSD. It’s an annoying gap in the collection!
     
  13. octophone

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    IIRC, the rights for that are with Cherry Red. Given the facsimile "Rowche Rumble" being added to their new vinyl edition of "Dragnet", I can't imagine this would be out of the question by the time they get to "Room To Live".
     
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  14. Pavol Stromcek

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    Man, Beggars Banquet really needs to get its act together and find a new pressing plant. I've actually had to go through three copies of the new Bend Sinister LP to find a copy where both LPs are (relatively) flat. With two of the copies, the second LP had a bad dish warp and edge warp, and the first LPs were moderately dish warped. I finally found a copy where the first LP has only a very, very mild dish warp, and the second LP a moderate dish warp. I think that's about as good as it's going to get for this release.

    This shouldn't be a surprise, as I had similar problems with their vinyl reissues of Bauhaus' Sky's Gone Out and Burning From the Inside - all pretty badly warped. But I'm going to be really hesitant to buy any new Beggars Banquet vinyl in the future.
     
  15. Jim B.

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    Were all those pressed in the EU or US?
     
  16. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

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    EU, I believe.
     
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  17. Ellen1014

    Ellen1014 Forum Resident

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    I'm just getting into the Fall and this thread is bookmarked as my go-to with regards to all the releases.

    The compilations and live releases are a complete nightmare. At least in today's day and age fans will be able to get the rarer stuff easier and not be constantly searching for an exclusive version of 1 mediocre song from a mid 90s 10" single.
     
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  18. BlueSpeedway

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    If I were you I’d ignore compilations for now. Get all the studio albums expanded versions then you’ll have 99% of the non album stuff at least up to the Are You Are Missing Winner era.

    I’d recommend these official live albums to start: Austerbaijo / Fall In a Hole / I am Pure as Orange, and the Hacienda live DVD compilation. Then if you get into Dragnet, get its “companion” live album Totale’s Turns. :righton:
     
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  19. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Except the Peel sessions if you can get them...
     
  20. BlueSpeedway

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    True, but quite a lot of the Peel Sessions are included on the expanded CDs, which is a good Fall Peel start. Hopefully the full Peel set will get an affordable reissue soon or soonish for newer fans.
     
  21. Willowman

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    Good luck, and don’t bother with the mediocre songs - just get the good ones ;-)
     
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  22. Ellen1014

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    I've already got the Singles box set that I have listened to the first 2 discs. I've also got Bend Sinister which is very good in my opinion. I've heard it a few times. I have The Unuterable and Witch Trials ready to hear other the next month or so but I aren't in a rush to hear everything. I'll be quite glad to be able to 'get to know' these releases over the coming year and more.
     
  23. Sprague Dawley

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  24. Jim B.

    Jim B. Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I'd recommend going chronologically as it's really like a great adventure with lots of twists and turns.

    Welcome anyway to the Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall discography!
     
  25. Ellen1014

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    I was thinking of doing that and incorporating the Peel Sessions between the albums and singles when they were broadcast. But that could be a bit difficult to keep track of. I have got Live at the Witch Trials on now. First listen. It sounds different to anything else. Very unique.
     
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