The Smiths/Morrissey - song-by-song discussion thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Turk Thrust, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    This one (this is a mock-up obviously and not any finished artwork).
     
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  2. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    So happy to see the early love for Strangeways and A Rush and a Push.

    For me, Strangeways is their best album. A Rush and a Push is great. I adore that vocal effect at the start of it. And that lyric "but don't mention love" is classic Morrissey.
     
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  3. Gavaxeman

    Gavaxeman Take me back to dear old Blighty...

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    Agreed, strangeways is their best
     
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  4. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

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    I'm not sure I follow you. I guess I just don't see any part of it as flimsy.
     
  5. matteos

    matteos Stereotype

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    Johnny Marr with Modest Mouse - We were dead before the ship even sank.

    As good as any Smiths album. Easily.
     
  6. Luisboa

    Luisboa Forum Resident

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    Rush and a push. First Smiths song i ever listen to. By my 16 a then recent friend who by now is like a brother had an original cassette of Strangeways and he put it playing, saying is classmates all hated it. I loved it since the begining, specially when side B started (you know what Im talking about). I dont think he explored the Smiths that much since, but me after a year i was already turning to Morrissey stuff since i had consumed all the Smiths I could.
    Rush and a push. 4/5
     
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  7. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

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    o_O
     
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  8. The MEZ

    The MEZ Forum Resident

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    Rush and A Push.....5/5
     
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  9. matteos

    matteos Stereotype

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    Yes. Isaac Brock is a better lyricist than Morrissey (I know. Is that even possible?). He might not be a better singer. Give it a listen.

    I know I'm getting off topic, so apologies but if you love the smiths. Give this a chance.
     
  10. TexasBuck

    TexasBuck Forum Resident

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    A Rush and Push and the Land Is Ours: Beautiful intro with the vocal effects, drums and harpsichord? Love the production:. There is a lot of space and air. Very unique song: Both musically and melody wise. I can’t name a Smiths song I think sounds like this. I have no idea what the song is about but the lyrics are pure brilliance and love the vocal inflection/delivery. Case in point: “Some eighteen months ago I traveled to a mystical time zone And I missed my bed And I soon came home”. Great way to start things off. 5 out of 5 ranking.
     
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  11. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

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    Sorry, this might be the strongest "we'll have to agree to disagree" I've ever uttered. I loathe, abhor, and detest Modest Mouse, and as for the idea that Brock is a better lyricist than Morrissey, well, I don't want to tick off Turk Thrust again, so I'll just say that I disagree vehemently with that notion. (And yes, I've heard that album.)
     
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  12. matteos

    matteos Stereotype

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    Well for the sake of love, peace and harmony. (Maybe in the next world)

    Let's just agree to disagree. I mean you're obviously wrong of course :winkgrin: but that hasn't stopped others.
     
  13. ARL

    ARL Forum Resident

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    "A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours"

    Strangeways is an album with a beautiful and lush production. I bought it on the day of release, and it is without doubt the best-sounding piece of Smiths vinyl that I own. The problem I have with it is that it contains a few songs that just don't appeal to me - at least not as much as virtually all the earlier songs do.

    However...it's not a problem to begin with as "A Rush..." gets the album off to a fantastic start with a confident bouncy stride. I didn't even realise there were no guitars in it until I read Simon Goddard's book. Nice tune, gorgeous transition into the chorus, and a very satisfying rolled 'r' from Morrissey. I've no idea what it's about, but it's the most infectious track on the album. 5/5.
     
  14. Eleventh Earl of Mar

    Eleventh Earl of Mar Somehow got them all this far.

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    Love the lyric on this one. I actually really like this as the first track plus the overdubbing here is pretty neat. I don't really get sick of it, and it's always pretty good. 5/5
     
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  15. guidedbyvoices

    guidedbyvoices Old Dan's Records

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    I like the album but it’s nowhere close to the Smiths.
     
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  16. omikron

    omikron Avid contributor to Paul McCartney's bank account

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    Strongly agree. 5/5

    P.S. I'm done lurking.

    Strangeways is total departure from their prior work. So of course Rush and Push is different. Doesn't make it any less powerful.
     
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  17. pwhytey

    pwhytey Forum Resident

    ‘A Rush and a Push’ is a wonderfully evocative opener for The Smiths’ swansong (the best of their four albums, in my opinion). At times haunting, jaunty, humorous and melancholic, it’s a great song and I was pleased to see it finish second in a recent Strangeways poll on here. 5/5
     
  18. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

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    Ah, too bad I missed that poll. Strangeways really is an incredible and under-appreciated album. I totally get why Morrissey and Marr have stated that it's their favorite.
     
  19. RobRoyF

    RobRoyF Forum Resident

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    Rush and Push


    Powerful - nothing more to add.

    5/5
     
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  20. mikaal

    mikaal Sociopathic Nice Guy

    What is 80's piano ...:shrug:?
    My score is 4.
     
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  21. mooseman

    mooseman Forum Resident

    "A Rush and a Push and the Land Is Ours" 5/5
     
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  22. Snoddywilko

    Snoddywilko Forum Resident

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    Yes, this was the backdrop the first time I saw Morrissey live in 1991. I bought the t-shirt with this image on & wore it to death for a couple of years until I lost it in the sea whilst holiday in Greece; Harvey Keitel’s face last seen floating off towards Albania.....
     
  23. mooseman

    mooseman Forum Resident

    I also saw him at New York’s Madison Square Garden back in 1991, sold out show. I remember that backdrop picture.
     
  24. rararabbits

    rararabbits Forum Resident

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    In case anyone’s unfamiliar with the uncropped source of the cover photo. I agree that the cropped version is a rather bland image.
     
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  25. mikaal

    mikaal Sociopathic Nice Guy

    Who are they? Is that Jimmy Dean seated?
     

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