The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

    Location:
    Mojave Desert
    6/14/68 is not for the faint of heart.

    Space [3:24] > Jam (1) [0:33] >
    The Eleven [6:55] >
    Saint Stephen [6:17]
    Alligator [3:13] >
    Drums [0:10] > Turn On Your Lovelight [10:32] >
    Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) [4:07] > Drums [2:36] >
    Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) [23:22] >
    Feedback [3:54]
     
  2. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Greenville, SC
    To be fair, that show kinda feels a lot more like 77 imo
     
  3. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Greenville, SC
    I could be wrong, but having listened pretty extensively to 76, I feel like people have a preconceived opinion of it that is based off the sluggish (though still highly enjoyable!) June shows.

    A near-static setlist doesn't help if you don't like the songs being played constantly either.

    The "kill me and end this" SLOW Tennessee Jed, for instance ;)

    :)

    But once they hit July and then the fall, its go time for the most part!

    Im a 76 defender to the core, lol
     
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  4. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    June'76 has its moments, best served up in a curated box.
     
  5. footlooseman

    footlooseman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Joyzee
    Rock Prosopography 101: June 14-15, 1968 Fillmore East Grateful Dead/Jeff Beck Group/Seventh Sons

    Chrome Oxide - Music Collectors pages - Jeff Beck Group w/Rod Stewart - 06/03/2019

    PERSONNEL: November 1967 - February 1969 - # 3
    Rod Stewart - vocals
    Jeff Beck - guitar
    Nicky Hopkins - piano (joined September/October 1968)
    Ron Wood - bass (quit for April - June 1968)
    John Woods - bass (April - June 1968)
    Mickey Waller - drums

    LIVE SHOW: June 14, 1968 Fillmore East, New York City, NY (p1) (2 shows)
    LIVE SHOW: June 15, 1968 Fillmore East, New York City, NY (p1) (2 shows)
    (20 min. tape known to exist)

    The Jeff Beck Group
    June 18, 1968 (1968-06-18)
    Fillmore East
    New York, NY
    USA

    01) [08:01] You Shook Me > Let Me Love You
    02) [07:39] The Sun is Shining
    03) [05:20] Jeff's Boogie


    Total [21:00]
     
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  6. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    Oh absolutely! Most of the June shows are great. Its just, in one lump sum, its not the most appealing of months to, say, marathon, lol

    :)
     
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  7. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Totally.

    RIP Germain.
     
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  8. KCWhistle

    KCWhistle Forum Resident

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    It's almost like they know this. Download Series 4 -- y'know, a release for which packaging, disc time constraints, etc. were not factors to account for -- included material from four different June shows. I've grown very fond of 76 over these past few weeks. A curated set would be amazing. I don't know if the final Road Trips set would've been better as a compilation of highlights from the Boston shows or not, but it seems like that would've been a fine opportunity for such a thing.
     
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  9. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    1 March 1969- Fillmore West.

    As I said, Aoxomoxoa '69 has me going Primal.
     
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  10. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    A good sized chunk of June'76 was part of the stash that ABCD retrieved. DL2 is better positioned to make such decisions now.
     
  11. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

    Location:
    Chicago, IL, US
    They may have been salvaging some shows that couldn't be released in full due to songs having cuts or mix problems, but it is true (and possibly they had it in mind) that the June 76 shows tend to be a combination of great and not so great.
     
  12. dgwint

    dgwint Forum Resident

    Yep. Agree completely.
     
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  13. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

    Location:
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    That’s one of the rare shows where the first set is even better than the second. IMO, of course.
     
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  14. kevin

    kevin Senior Member

    Location:
    Evanston IL
    Now listening to 6/14/84[Red Rocks]on TIGDH on SiriusXM's Grateful Dead channel via the webstream now playing Shakedown Street.
     
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  15. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    When the spring 76 tour was announced we decided to go to one show in each city we could get to. I saw one night each in boston, NYC, passaic and Philadelphia.
     
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  16. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    Me too.
     
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  17. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    Awesome! How’d those Egyptian eyeball bass drum heads look in person?

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    7 February 1969- Stanley Theater, Pittsburgh. Set I.

    Jerry guitar is liquid fire during this version of The Eleven.

    Seven faced, marble eyed, transitory dream doll...
     
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  19. Grateful Ed

    Grateful Ed Forum Resident

    Location:
    Vermont
    I think his September ‘72 recordings sound pretty nice.
     
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  20. ratstack

    ratstack Forum Resident

    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Regarding Bear’s engineering skills... I’m gonna have to agree to disagree on this. In that I think he was a good engineer, in his idiom. And almost no one was trying to operate in his idiom. No one other than the Dead themselves.

    The man had a weird ear (in a good way) and was a huge part of shaping their sound. It was a Celtic knot of his influence feeding back through the band back to his recordings and around and around that led to... well.. everything. Sound wise. Forget the quality acid he kept them fueled with.

    I’m a fan of most of his work. Is it perfect? Nope. Do you typically want an engineer to be perfect? Well... yeah. Do you typically want an engineer to be transparent? I guess. But it’s all a matter of taste. Would the Beatles have sounded like The Beatles with someone other than Geoff Emerick at that position? Probably not.

    I don’t know what my point is, other than Bear is Bear, and for what he did, it was great. Now, I’ve had a couple beers out on the deck and I’ve got a block rocker going instead of my Marantz 2275 in the house, and honestly everything is sounding good right now. But I would defend Bear at his best stone sober.

    Anyway, he made some great recordings here and there. And many are good. And throughout it, he was integral. When he was around that is.
     
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  21. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

    Location:
    Mojave Desert
    4/14/72 Copenhagen

    Good Lovin’

    MC Pigpen raps and leads his compadres into greasy jams that make you want to drop everything, hop on your hog and ride.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Let It Shine!
     
  22. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    Mojave Desert
    Bear & Jerry
    [​IMG]

    Bear at “work”
    [​IMG]
     
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  23. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    Mojave Desert
    Kid Charlemagne all grown up:
    [​IMG]
     
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  24. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    I don't think those bass drum graphics appeared until the summer shows. I saw a couple of those too. The entire Jersey city show is around on video.
     
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  25. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Caption: "What the *bleep* does this do?"
     
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