Language question: Why has "vinyls" become a word?

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  1. aphexj

    aphexj Sound mind & body

    Hi, Millennial here. I grew up with both. I don't do that s€£t
     
  2. sunking101

    sunking101 Forum Resident

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    Erasure famously sang about the fishes in the sea...
     
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  3. classicrockguy

    classicrockguy Forum Resident

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    Just for the record (sorry:D), are records really made out of vinyl or is it some kind of other plastic?
     
  4. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    I still use "records" or "LPs", and sometimes "albums". It makes sense to me to use "vinyl" as a format descriptor, but not as a pluralized object label.
     
  5. BwanaBob

    BwanaBob Forum Resident

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    If you say "vinyls" you should go to the liberry and ax for a dictionary. :D
     
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  6. sami

    sami Mono still rules

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    Do and due. That's another one I see more and more.
     
  7. sami

    sami Mono still rules

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    In Febuary. And ask for a samwich while you are there. Or their.
     
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  8. davebush

    davebush New Test Leper

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    Now that we're venting - I keep seeing "could of".
     
  9. JohnS

    JohnS Senior Member

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    I don't lose sleep over it. Language changes and evolves, as pointed out above, and it's not the first time a noun has been formed from what was originally a description of a substance.
    100 years ago, I imagine pub and cafeteria goers would be bemused at hearing someone asking for 'a beer' or 'a coffee'
     
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  10. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur!

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    I use "rekkids."
     
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  11. Kate_C.

    Kate_C. abyssus abyssum invocat

    your crazy

    Our host already weighed-in with his pique at the heresy of this particular bit of forum ebonics:
    People, I love ya but there is no such word as VINYLS. It's "VINYL", no 's' at end.

    Incidentally, I could care less because I know exactly what's meant by it. However, the otherwise gramatically correct "progressive rock" leaves me increasingly confused with each new thread.
     
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  12. nosliw

    nosliw Delivering parcels throughout Teyvat! Meow~!

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    A lot of people within my generation really don't have a point of reference with respect to record stores, though I am a millennial and did grew up during the times that music shops exists in every mall back in the day. Let alone that most don't even have a point of reference to vinyl records.

    Personally, I cannot stand "vinyls" or "vinyl player" as I see this being used countless times online and in the real world. Instead, I personally use LPs, EPs, and records.
     
  13. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    Polyvinyl chloride.
     
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  14. SoporJoe

    SoporJoe Forum Resident

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    People here are often spelling “lose” as “loose”. That’s a bigger mystery to me.
     
  15. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    Traditionally, polyvinylchloride was/is used with added plasticizers to allow for flexibility. Some manufacturers in the past used styrene (as in Columbia 45s, for instance).
     
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  16. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    Maybe they're not saying what you assumed when they wrote "You loose."
     
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  17. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    [​IMG]
     
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  18. eddiel

    eddiel Senior Member

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    Actually that might not help because there have been examples of the use of the word vinyls in the past. There was an entertaining article about the plural of this world that was floating around the last time this was discussed on here. The article was written, not from fans of records angle, but from an english professor (IIRC). General consensus was that it's technically not incorrect.

    I haven't traced it's usage back and done studies on it, but I noticed the use at first amongst people who's first language was not English. Not making a slight here towards anyone, as it makes sense that someone, who's first language is not English, might think it's perfectly logical that that would be the plural. However, the English language isn't always that logically. :)
     
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  19. JohnS

    JohnS Senior Member

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    Don't open up THAT can of worms, please.... :D
     
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  20. When In Rome

    When In Rome It's far from being all over...

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    Regarding the term vinyl, I grew up with records, LP's and albums. Amazon use the term vinyl for records as do many other online stores. In fact, the ones who produce the records call them vinyl - 'Back to Black', 'The Sound of Vinyl', 'Music on Vinyl'. So its just become the new vernacular for records.
    As for vinyls, well thats just how some folk add 's' to everything, e.g.
    "Hey, did you see all those sheeps back there?"
    "It's Sheep, without the S!"
    "Oh... hey, did you see all those heeps back there?"
    Etc.
     
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  21. bunglejerry

    bunglejerry Forum Resident

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    As a medium, I prefer vinyls to plastics-and-aluminums.

    (Or is that 'alumina'?)
     
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  22. Kristofa

    Kristofa Enthusiast of small convenient sound carrier units

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    The same day “interwebs” crept out of its dark, evil hole and laid waste to all things decent in this world.

    Or perhaps “vinyls” surfaced once the ecology started rebounding after “interwebs” subsided a bit... just to kick humanity when it was already down.
     
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  23. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

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    Ignorance, plain and simple. :shrug:
     
  24. Language evolves.
     
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  25. TMegginson

    TMegginson Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I was (foolishly) coming at this from a descriptive, rather than a prescriptive, POV.

    I write for a living (in advertising) so I try to pay attention to changes in my language. I grew up with a stereo in our living room, since my dad had been a DJ when he was in high school and university (that's him in my avatar). In late-70s Eastern Ontario, Canada, 331/3s (LPs) were "records," 7" singles were "forty-fives," and the 10" format seemed remotely historical. In the dance-mix '80s, we added "EPs" to the vocabulary to cover 12" records with remixes or a few bonus tracks, often at 45 rpm.

    For me, at age 49, "records" means LPs in general, but I can buy 45s and EPs at the "record store." (I can even buy CDs there, although I've never used the term "CD store," even when there were no more records at HMV, etc.)

    tl;dr There are no wrong answers :)
     
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