The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    Well, good point, but it's just an example. The reason I find it a compelling example is because it's such a legendarily-good-sounding SBD. Even with multiple SBD copies and an official release, I still reach for the AUD on this one. The same dynamic exists on other audience tapes but they don't spring to mind because I don't necessarily have a legendary SBD tape to compare them to.
     
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  2. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    On the topic of China-Rider, I just listened to one from 5/13/83 with an interesting intro. It goes longer than usual because for some reason Weir isn't playing, then Garcia plays a version of Weir's riff, then Weir comes in and they play it together for one or two rounds.
     
  3. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Yeah that Dark Star is definitely worth listening to. Out of Space there's a little jam that I think sounds like Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl (maybe)
     
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  4. uzn007

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    Cheeky.

    Thanks for doing the research. I'm still sad that I lost my Deadbase IV back in the early 90s... I was going to suggest that the song was gone for several years and came back with the new riff in the 80s.

    BTW, I think the technique on the 80s riff is to pick the first note and then hammer-on the second two. It's the same riff in the same position played on the bottom three strings, so you start on F and hammer-on F# and G, then move to A# and hammer-on to B and C, etc.
     
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  5. dgwint

    dgwint Forum Resident

    The 10/25/69 Airplane performance is very strong. Definitely worth seeking out.

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  6. uzn007

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  7. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    32 years ago today....

     
  8. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

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  9. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    Random request: Does anyone have a gif of that hippie up at the front of the rail at Winterland from The Grateful Dead Movie?
     
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  10. garymc

    garymc Forum Resident

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    Thanks. I wasn’t being a smartass. I was truly confused that anyone on this thread wouldn’t know Welnick. Thanks for clarifying.
     
  11. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    In @ratstack and @bzfgt you've run into two of the biggest smartasses in this forum. :cop:
     
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  12. ratstack

    ratstack Forum Resident

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    Have it on now and will report my findings, General.
     
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  13. uzn007

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    I was preparing to listen to it and got distracted by this smokin' JGB cut:



    I want to check out that Airplane show that Dave posted, too.
     
  14. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Yeah, that sounds right, I learned to play it once but don't remember it. The research, such as it was, only took about 4 minutes...I've done this with a couple other things; I go here:

    Cumberland Blues by Grateful Dead Concert Statistics | setlist.fm

    which once in a while doesn't have something, and then I'm lost.

    And then I just look at all the potentially relevant dates, and look up and play the relevant part of the relevant song on the rel...uh, on the Archive
     
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  15. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    Now that I think of it, the last part of the riff may be hybrid picking. I.e. there are three rising licks that are played with hammer-ons, then a chordal thing (C to Bb?) that he may play with his fingers. I always played the whole thing with a pick when I played it because I'm not good enough to do hybrid picking.
     
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  16. ducksdeluxe

    ducksdeluxe A voice in the wilderness.

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    I was there. My first show. Insane.

    I was there, too. We had so much fun that the town never invited us back. :o
     
  17. trd

    trd Forum Resident

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    Notably the interplay between Weir and Garcia is far easier to distinguish in the AUD version of this show than the SBD
     
  18. Jman92

    Jman92 Forum Resident

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  19. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    Brings a whole new meaning to the expression "couch tour", but unfortunately the video is blocked for me (the "Immigrant Song" video on the same page plays fine).
     
  20. Jman92

    Jman92 Forum Resident

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    Odd! It's just a youtube video-- plays fine on my end. Don't know if it'll make a difference but here's a direct link



    Smokin' version of Eyes to boot.
     
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  21. Mad Dog

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    IWT. Only one verse. Weir starts by accident (I believe) with the 2nd and they just take it from there.
     
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  22. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Ah, I was on the internet and not listening as attentively as possible I guess, I heard the second and thought it was 2nd.
     
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  23. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Even the bot prefers Relisten. Is that really a bot? I always thought it was a real bot, but is the bot really programmed to answer questions like "Why Relisten and not the Archive"? I am now skeptical about this whole bot thing.
     
  24. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Must have been the stunt with the frog that pissed them off
     
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  25. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    1978-06-04 The setlist indeed looks pedestrian (like many shows from 1978). Bertha is extremely energetic; that's as far as I've gotten thus far...

    EDIT: maybe not pedestrian, just standard for the year
     

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