At the risk of perpetuating the OT discussion, I'd say it's 75% of what I want in a Who song. It (along with Cry If You Want) are the two songs on the record where I really miss Keith Moon. Kenney's stiff, martial drumming on Cry If You Want is a terrible choice for that type of song, and I can only dream of what a peak-era Moon would have done with a song like that, and how it would have made a really good song into an all-time classic. I've Known No War meanwhile has that section in the middle where literally nothing changes from 3:20 to 4:30 or so. It almost sounds like there's a scratch and the record is just playing the same thing over and over again. I don't think Keith would have been able to resist doing something creative in there to relieve the monotony. It almost sounds like a demo where space was left to overdub something later, and they never got around to doing it.
Pete did make a comment last night at the Hollywood Bowl while introducing Zak that Ringo was at the show.
Thank God you made this post Czeskleba ! I would've thought it's evident to any forum veteran here, that as you said. With only 2 songs released so far. It's difficult to not stray off a bit, trying to keep the conversation going, until we get more songs or 30 sec clips, or more detailed credits, info on the bonus tracks etc. Richard Evans, is the webmaster at the official WHO, as well as the art-graphics designer for a number of WHO albums, & other famous albums. Point being, he's in a position to know if Ringo played on 3 of the new WHO tracks, credited or uncredited. Perhaps when we hear more of the new songs, we'll hear some tunes that appear to have dual drummers...but I'd also point out, the tracks originate with Townshend's demos & drum machine, so it's possible Ringo would've only played certain portions of a pastiche or 'assembled-overdubbed' drum part. Anyway we don't know if Richard Evan's was kidding or not. I asked him, but he didn't respond. I do believe, I could be wrong, But I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed, the 3 bonus tracks are from the new album sessions. As opposed to old demos like Sand, which itself is a 4th & seperate bonus track of a 65-66 home demo. Maybe Ringo & Zak do father & son dual drummers! Naw..
No, all it's saying is that it's superior to By Numbers, Who Are You, Face Dances, It's Hard, and Endless Wire, and pointedly not as good as Quadrophenia. Personally, I do think it's possible that WHO will be the best thing Pete and Roger have done together since Quadrophenia. We shall see.
I've heard a lot of people say that but I really like it. It's a cool device to build tension leading up to the strings and Roger's re-entry. It takes a lot of guts to do that, kind of like Pink Floyd's neverending Shine On intro.
I hear it. I love that song and I like It’s Hard in general. I accept that The Who, as a dynamic force, was simply unsustainable in their original incarnation - even if the line up never changed. So I while I prefer the 70s Who, I can appreciate most of what came after as I respect Pete as a writer and performer and have always loved Roger - one of my favorite rock voices. And for whatever Pete’s mood of the moment is, Roger has always been all in for The Who. I DO get a wistful, my god, what if Keith were here to unleash his holy hell on both Music Must Fade as well as I’ve Known No War - although to be fair, I think the latter is one spot where Kenney’s locked in beat works very well. If the latest single is a fair indicator, I think I will probably enjoy the new album.
To me it builds monotony rather than tension. It's hard not to contrast it to WGFA, where the long instrumental break is varied (both the keyboard part and what Keith does with the drums) yet subtle and does create a building tension which is then relieved in spades when Roger comes back in with his scream. Knowing the speed at which the songs for It's Hard were written and recorded, it's hard not to conclude that the break in I've Known No War was simply something where they didn't put in the time to develop the song.
I'm really excited for the new album. As much as I love the original band, I can find pleasure in the 3 post Moon albums. There is just something special when Pete and Roger team up, that's just me though. I listen to Endless Wire without being forced! Only thing I noticed is Amazon has the album coming out in December, maybe they have it wrong.
Yes we shall. I am optimistic that it will be a good album, but there is a lot of first-rate material and performances on By Numbers and Who Are You, as well as Face Dances and It's Hard, so I am skeptical that it will be better than those albums (even the initial two post-Moon albums, which both had their moments). By Numbers is a top-tier album and I think it is highly unlikely that anything Pete and Roger do in 2019 will surpass it.
Well, I think Endless Wire already surpassed By Numbers, and I love By Numbers even more than I love Who's Next.
Interesting, that's also the anniversary of the 1973 Largo, Maryland show. Maybe will finally get a release on that one too.
Every listing that specifies Deluxe CD will be the 14 track version. Note that the site has a seperate item number for Deluxe CD and Standard CD. The triple lp will include the PT demo sand. The Who - Official Store Edit: Here is a link to customer support. You can ask them if the bundle will include the Deluxe CD with bonus tracks The Who - Official Store
I find it hard to even compare. I mean, 37 year old Pete and Roger is so different to 75 year old Pete and Roger that I'm not sure direct comparisons even mean much. Especially with the change in the world, music, recording, you name it. All we can hope for is that WHO is a good album. The initial reviews says it is. Comparing to the old Who, hell how do you even start?
Me too, EW is my 2nd favorite official who album right behind quadrophenia. I think by numbers has great songs on it but similar to my gen, and aqo, i dont often visit it. i honetly think the new album will make top 5 for me. I loved the work Pete and Roger did on alaihy