Netflix: The Irishman - Robert De Niro, Martin Scorsese, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci & Harvey Keitel.

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  1. Veni Vidi Vici

    Veni Vidi Vici Forum Resident

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    They've been... unconvincingly de-aged?
     
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  2. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    and they were very upfront about all of it.

    if that is people's only bitch about this wonderful movie it must be pretty darn good.
     
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  3. Bill

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    It was much more enjoyable the second time I watched it. I found it well worth the not inconsiderable investment of time.
     
  4. RK2249

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    "The Irishman" is the "Unforgiven" of gangster movies.
     
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  5. The Hermit

    The Hermit Wavin' that magick glowstick since 1976

    I'm hoping this is the case for myself; saw it on Saturday night and enjoyed it greatly whilst being surprised at just how different it is from Goodfellas or Casino... a much more paced, stately, and quieter, more contemplative affair overall... not the kinetic fireworks of the aforementioned two masterworks. This is very much the more reflective Scorsese of Silence than the mischievous Scorsese of Wolf of Wall Street... and some folks may not be prepared or have the patience for that... their loss.

    Magisterial performances overall, very understated direction from Marty, and although the de-aging is noticeable in only a few scenes - it is what it is (see what I did there, eh, eh?) - I bought into it no problemo... it's definitely a movie to be watched more than once to get the full depth thereof, and I plan to do so.

    Joe Pesci deserves the Oscar for his performance... and I think he might just get it.
     
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  6. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Clint commented on it?
     
  7. Monosterio

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    I don’t know about Clint, but a few critics have said that. You know, that it’s the nail in the coffin of the gangster film, like Unforgiven was for the western.
     
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  8. RK2249

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    That was actually my own take on it...had more to do with the aging protagonist aspect of it. Not sure if the critics thought that though
     
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  9. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    Ha ha I hate that too..looks like in the past every car was super nice and shiny.

    Off topic but... if you want dented bumpers and scratches I humbly suggest you to watch the first scene of "La-La-Land"; several cars show some damages even before anybody jumps on them and starts dancing :D
     
  10. Ghostworld

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    Dude, I have $175 Glidecam Pro and I can practically pull off the “Goodfellas” bar scene with it. Come on, Marty. Were e going for a “retro glidecam shot?” Maybe they didnt fully establish it was a “wheelchair perspective“ shot for an inside joke ( which might have been smoother) .
     
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  11. palisantrancho

    palisantrancho Forum Resident

    I don't have much to add, but just wanted to say that I loved it! I am looking forward to watching it again. The de-aging didn't bother me and most of the film I didn't even notice it. It wasn't as drastic as I was expecting. Pacino is brilliant in the film, but I loved everyones performance. If this doesn't completely sweep the Oscars I will be shocked. It's hard for me to believe that some people think this movie was slow, boring, too long, and terrible. All I know is they would probably also hate 90 percent of all the other movies I love.
     
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  12. GregM

    GregM The expanding man

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    I think cars were quickly repaired and repainted in the old days after accidents. There were far fewer cars on the road, far fewer accidents, far fewer irresponsible drivers. Far greater pride of ownership. Those who could afford cars could easily afford insurance, and the insurance companies would not try to stiff people like they do now. After cars became a necessity for everyone, they still maintained that panache until the '60s - '70s, I'd say. Then the influx of cheaper foreign cars and changing social norms really changed things.
     
  13. 500Homeruns

    500Homeruns Peaceful Punk

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    A guy at work said, "It was too long."
    I said, "What else do you have to do?"
     
  14. PNeski@aol.com

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    while I was watching this,I wished it was a series
     
  15. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    yep, i could watch those guys act and interact with each other every day.

    art for art's sake.
     
  16. The Panda

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    Will Pacino and Pesci be fighting it out for Supporting Actor or do they qualify for Best Actor?
     
  17. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    i think deniro goes in the best actor category and pesci and pacino both go into supporting.
     
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  18. radickeyfan

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    very very good...but Joker was better
     
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  19. Spencer R

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    I noticed this exact phenomenon in the first episode of Apple’s For All Mankind, in which a group of astronauts in 1969 engage in an impromptu drag race. Amazingly, every guy owns a sparkling new sports car that looks like it just rolled off of the assembly line.
     
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  20. Wildest cat from montana

    Wildest cat from montana Humble Reader

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    You shoulda hit him with the " It is what it is " line. See if he got the message.
     
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  21. Wildest cat from montana

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    It will be interesting to see what Oscar nominations this movie gets.
    I wonder though if Scorsese will get slighted for ' doing tv '.
     
  22. 93curr

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    That is people's only bitch about this wonderful movie and it is pretty darn good.

    Well, maybe not "only." I do also wish Anna Paquin had been given more than one line.
     
  23. Monosterio

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  24. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    Yeah, that is maddening. It would not have taken a lot of work to at least "dirty them up" a little bit.

    Meanwhile, Netflix is pulling out all the stops and promoting the crap out of this film in order to get some award "consideration," and they've released an hour or two of Behind the Scenes documentaries and interviews. You can see a half dozen of them here, including interviews with Scorsese, the actors, and the DP:

    Watch Netflix Take Some Deep Dives Into the Making of 'The Irishman'
     
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  25. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    Oooops! Take 2!

    The thing I always look for in car chase scenes is, look at the pavement and see if there's already skid marks before the car gets to the intersection. Chances are, there already are, because they had to do multiple takes and couldn't completely clean the rubber off the street.

    No, I would provide the following "bitches" about the film:

    1) the structure is convoluted and goes in several different directions

    2) a lot of scenes are unnecessarily long and should have been tightened up with careful editing

    3) while the "younger" characters had younger faces, they still moved like old men... or at least actors in their mid-to-late 1970s, which they were in real life

    4) it was difficult to empathize or understand Frank Sheeran's character, because he was enigmatic and seemed vague about his reasons for being a killer and justifying his work. You could try to understand the daughter more, but she wasn't given much screen time to explain or figure out her motives for being so distant.

    5) the real story about Frank Sheeran is much more complicated and more questionable than what's shown in the film, and he may not have killed all the people he claims to. There's conflicting evidence that says the killer(s) of Joey Gallo were not tall, which Frank Sheeran definitely was (as one example). More in this list:

    Martin Scorsese’s The Irishman Glosses Over a Key Point
     
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