The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    The standard story used to be that Jerry had dragged them into the pits before the coma, then he came roaring out and they were good again, but the blazing guitar one often hears in the mid-80s doesn't bear this out.
     
  2. sami

    sami Mono still rules

    Location:
    Down The Shore
    One of the very best shows I've ever heard, and certainly the best Dark Star.
     
  3. sami

    sami Mono still rules

    Location:
    Down The Shore
    That second solo is a barn burner.
     
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  4. WaterLemon

    WaterLemon Forum Resident

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Thanks Sniggle for those observations on Norfolk 82. That spring tour was one I saw a lot from. A few of us drove south from upstate NY, passed through Virginia Beach around sunrise, before making it to Duke in NC. Tickets were hard to come by, but since the tickets were gray and black, we used the library photocopier to make copies, then glued together sheets of paper and cut them to size... they got us inside. It was a mellow time in the scene, looking back on it now.

    Anyway, I did a lot of that tour, Duke, Norfolk, Philly, then back to the upstate and at least one (maybe 2) Nassau shows. I guess I lived by the dictum, Too much of everything is just enough. My favorites from that spring are 4/6 Philly and Cornell. I’ve come to realize that Norfolk is excellent. I never had it on cassette so didn’t etch it as deeply into my mind in the immediate time afterwards. I was always struck by the Eyes from 4/3 which was a rare slowed down version during an era where the tune was usually breakneck speed.
     
  5. Oliver

    Oliver Bourbon Infused

    Yeah that's a fantastic show for sure. The jam that comes together near the end of Dark Star from the spacey middle section is epic.
     
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  6. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    Mickey did that at a few of the Mickey Hart Band shows I attended.

    Jerry? Er, no.
     
  7. WaterLemon

    WaterLemon Forum Resident

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Right. Lucky to get a “Thanks a lot. See y’all later!”
     
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  8. DrLunchbox

    DrLunchbox Forum Deadhead #1604

    Location:
    Hillsborough, NC
    Brent's marimba sound is one of my favorite things about that entire DP release. The second disc is far and away the highlight, IMO. Thanks Brent!
     
  9. DrLunchbox

    DrLunchbox Forum Deadhead #1604

    Location:
    Hillsborough, NC
    The place where my wife works?
     
  10. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Location:
    Greater Boston, MA
    Or if you're @Crispy Rob, the team that he hopes loses. See? I actually pay attention. :nyah:
     
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  11. DrLunchbox

    DrLunchbox Forum Deadhead #1604

    Location:
    Hillsborough, NC
    Just because my wife works there doesn't mean I ever want them to win any sort of sporting match in any sport.... goodness no, I'm a Michigan man. Hail!
     
  12. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Location:
    Greater Boston, MA
    Listening to 4/20/83 - Providence. My second show; my first three shows (4/15/82; 4/20/83 and 6/18/83) all featured a strong, late second-set Dew. I'm either a saint or a knight or just plain lucky. Someone anoint me or tell me to get over myself. :nyah:
     
  13. Oliver

    Oliver Bourbon Infused

    Was 6/18/83 the show the we were all talking about awhile back? With the Killer Morning Dew?
     
  14. Six Bachelors

    Six Bachelors Troublemaking enthusiast

    The Passaic 25 April '77 show is early enough in the tour that, to me, it sounds a bit different from the May stuff. A little less flowing but not for the worse. That Wharf Rat...

    Meanwhile, which of the June '76 Passaic shows do you prefer out of the first two? If you don't rate 19 June, I may not get much of a kick out of it whenever I get the box. I think that the 17 June show is boring and that the 18 June show is decent but still not exciting (although both sound wonderful.)

    For all the grief that Brent's synth sounds get, I think the marimba sound - at least the one on 14 October '83 - sounds very accurate. I didn't find it jarring or cheesy.
     
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  15. Six Bachelors

    Six Bachelors Troublemaking enthusiast

    Check out the Minglewood encore to the early show on 15 May '70.
     
  16. Six Bachelors

    Six Bachelors Troublemaking enthusiast

    Convenience and ease often seem not to lead to better music - a bit of grit and resistance when playing an instrument, at least for me, seems to make me play better, hence why my playing is better when I'm on either of my Teles (longer scale) than my Les Paul.

    I suppose a better way of saying this is that limitation encourages invention.
     
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  17. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Location:
    Greater Boston, MA
    Yessir. The best musical moment in my now 56 years on this planet. The available tapes don't explain this.
     
  18. Oliver

    Oliver Bourbon Infused

    I haven't listened to it in awhile but I remember Jerry's vocals on 'Dew being transcendent. Like hair raising.
    Edit: Even on tape it's amazing :)
     
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  19. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Great show indeed, and good to hear you were in the thick of it that night!
     
  20. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Location:
    Greater Boston, MA
    The tapes are at best 7/10 in terms of reproduction. That show melted universes. And Jerry's vocals on Dew are still echoing through the noble pines of Saratoga Springs to this day. Phil owned that Dew and did things that no mortal should have been able to do.
     
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  21. Oliver

    Oliver Bourbon Infused

    It's too bad there's not a soundboard but regardless of the sound quality Jerry's vocals shine through.
     
  22. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Location:
    Greater Boston, MA
    I can't know why they didn't bring along a recording console. They had a history of starting and ending tours strongly. When I got up that day and wandered down to the kitchen of my frat house, scratching my ass aimlessly and yawning while considering the top slice of cheese in the fridge to be nothing more than the packaging, I had no idea that I'd see the best live show I've ever seen in a matter of 8 hours.

    6/18/83 SPAC rearranged everything in terms of how I thought about music.
     
  23. Oliver

    Oliver Bourbon Infused

    Nice descriptives :)
    I actually had a chance to see the Dead in '86 but my parents decided otherwise lol...
     
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  24. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    I was there for the Rochester show. The Green Onions>China Cat>Rider and rare Believe It or Not weren’t too shabby either. I was just out of high school and staying with my uncle for the shows. He went with a buddy and we drove there and back together but split up during the show while I hung with my friends, but (although the odds were fairly high), I was glad that they played Me and My Uncle that night. Later, after the show, I left his dead ass by the side of the road. Because that’s what Bobby told me to do. Jerry was wearing a sports coat that June night, getting all ‘80s Clapton.
     
  25. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    I have a G&L guitar myself.
     

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