Rolling Stones Let It Bleed RSD EVISCERATED!

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Ben Adams, Nov 20, 2020.

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  1. Classicrock

    Classicrock Senior Member

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    You obviously don't look at his videos. I doubt he knew how bad this RSD disc was before he had it. Of course if he keeps it he pays trade but I got the impression he was embarrassed to be selling it. If you run a store you get the lists and order what is likely to sell. I bet he gets stuck with duds but some of the arrivals he says sell out quickly are surprising to me, but it is maybe the US market or even local trends. He is a serious record collector and has a very high end hi-fi system, so not a typical store owner or clerk.
     
  2. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    I go even better than that! Mine's mono, unboxed label, stickered sleeve, poster and uncensored inner sleeve with no splits. Excellent condition throughout. Yes, I admit to showing off a bit, but I wouldn't pay £100 for this, a record that has genuinely become scarce and collectable over time, never mind a cynically manufactured limited edition. I don't see things like this gaining much value. As a generalisation it's the pressings from the time serious collectors want and that go up in demand and value. Everything else is a reissue or a replica, no matter how limited or what colour it is. It's not the real deal and never will be. The exceptions are usually specialist pressings that have exceptional sound quality.
     
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  3. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    He's serious and he probably will keep the LP. I enjoy his pressing comparison videos. He isn't afraid to say when he finds a highly regarded or sought after pressing a disappointment.
     
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  4. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    But, for the reasons mentioned above, that's a very sensible kind of record to spend money on. The real thing.
     
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  5. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    Great points...I pretty much concur in my previous post. If, as a collector of whichever sorts, this interests you, get it. I'm not into it but I have to respect it. Every vinyl person has their own reason for what they lay out their hard earned money for. People who don't "get it" find it laughable that I own multiple copies of same albums. They can get so ignorant in fact that if you tell them you have a German pressing of such and such, they ask if the band sings the album in German.
     
  6. Spencer R

    Spencer R Forum Resident

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    A store owner who cared about his Record Store Day customers wouldn’t unseal extremely limited Record Store Day stock, of which many stores around the the world didn’t even receive one copy, a week before street date so he could post a self-serving video to massage his ego.

    While I’m friends with the guy who owns my local record store, I don’t need him telling me what Record Store Day items I should or shouldn’t buy from him. I’m perfectly capable of making those decisions by myself.

    I’d like to buy this record, preferably new and sealed, from my local record store. A record store owner opening and/or hoarding a copy of it before street date so he can make a video to boost his personal brand on YouTube isn’t looking out for me. He’s simply reducing the number of copies of this in the world available for me to buy from 900 to 899.
     
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  7. RTurner

    RTurner Senior Member

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    I like the unboxings and Mike seems like one of us. He handles the records with care and uses the blade very carefully - isn't that what we want to see? He can always sell it for list price - it's been unsealed but if unplayed it's no different than new (unless someone's buying it to flip). Also I really like the layout and look of his store - I rarely get to Phoenix but I would definitely go there if I was nearby.
     
  8. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    Bowie did on Heroes!
     
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  9. The 'In' Groove

    The 'In' Groove Forum Resident

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    Spencer, Spencer, Spencer.

    If I was trying to sell it for a profit, wouldn't it make a little more sense for me to make a video telling people how amazing this is and everyone should buy it? I don't lie to people to try to sell them crap. I've always tried to educate new people in this hobby to help them make good decisions and avoid poor choices. I also advocate for manufacturers to do right by the vinyl community. High grade, high quality vinyl! When they do, I give them props. When they don't - I call them out.

    Your anger is perplexing. Are you the clown trying to sell a copy on ebay for $1200? Are you secretly the guy who thought of charging $99 for this turd? Those are the only things I can think of that would make you advocate such a position.
     
  10. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    Are you actually buying this?
     
  11. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    You got me on that one.
     
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  12. motionoftheocean

    motionoftheocean Senior Member

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    When you say passing judgment, do you mean like calling a guy a thief without any proof?

    You’ve said the same thing about 10 times now. You’re making a point (along with absurd assumptions) that has no relevance to anyone on this forum. Nobody here needs the endorsement of anyone to tell them what they should or shouldn’t buy. But as consumers people do like to know when they’re being ripped off. What you’re doing is akin to arguing that Hyundais are reliable cars while standing on a Maserati lot. Take up another cause.
     
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  13. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    He might be the guy who spent $300 you mention in the video.
     
  14. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    @Willowman pointed out earlier that there are plenty of clean originals. The thing that bothers me, is that most of the tracks on side 1 still sound like they’re in fake stereo. I could be wrong but ABKCO owns the masters, couldn’t they get back to the original tapes?

    Bad choice on my part.
     
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  15. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Well, obviously not this copy. :winkgrin:
     
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  16. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    They overprice and woefully under deliver.
     
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  17. douglas mcclenaghan

    douglas mcclenaghan Forum Resident

    I am glad I am CD only.
     
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  18. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    Very true!

    Aren't the sensible people going to open it anyway, making it the same condition as that one in the video? I'd have no problem buying that if I wanted it and that's the only copy. I open and play all my records. It could even have the advantage of knowing there are no visible pressing faults.

    Of course, there actually will be people spending $100 on a record where the visual is the whole point, then keeping it sealed and never seeing it. That's far worse to me.
     
  19. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    It's a great way to be nowadays. Bargains everywhere and it's all about the music.
     
  20. Spencer R

    Spencer R Forum Resident

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    The guy who owns my local store is embarrassed to sell Greta Van Fleet and Taylor Swift records, yet he stocks them … because they sell. And he can’t afford to impose his personal tastes on his customers. It’s a hard enough business already. I’m pretty sure he stocked the Baby Shark picture disc a few Record Store Days ago. Not because he thought that was a cool record, but because kids and their parents came into his record store to buy that record.

    Unless you’re going to go all in on the High Fidelity/“I know what’s best for you” snob approach, it’s not about your personal feelings about every piece of stock in your store.
     
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  21. Spencer R

    Spencer R Forum Resident

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    I am neither. And I don’t need to be “educated” about which records I choose to buy. It was clear to me from the moment the Black Friday list was released that selling point here was that each copy features a unique “hand poured” color variant. If I paid $99 for this and later discovered that some or all of the pressings looked exactly the same, I’d feel ripped off. Otherwise, no.
     
  22. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    Taylor Swift is an excellent artist. I'd never be ashamed of that.

    I'd be embarrassed selling GVF, but I would if they sold. Barely anyone cares for them here though.
     
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  23. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    I hate being cynical when it concerns the cost of the majority of re-issues because I'm one of the best customers for this stuff. But what you say is true of every company that owns tapes of artists whose old material still has a huge repeat-appeal...meaning, buying the same album over and over in different form of "some kind". And the companies have become very aware of this "sucker market" (which I'm a part of, admittedly). One can only hope that for the most part, overpricing considered, most of these sets are done nicely and worth having and enjoying. The one thing I absolutely won't tolerate, is a lousy pressing. For this reason, I stick to vendors with whom I can not only return easily, but just get my money back if necessary.
     
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  24. BroJB

    BroJB Large Marge sent me.

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    If you own a store that's part of RSD, it's absolutely your right to call out substandard or vastly overpriced items.

    IMO, it's in the best interests of RSD for labels to know that they may get called out publicly for this sort of thing. Quality control is what will keep RSD relevant.
     
  25. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    A lot of people appreciate knowing what records sound best, are good value and what the packaging is like before they spend a lot of cash on to them. There's nothing wrong with knowledgeable people providing that information. I've found it incredibly useful here many times.
     
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