The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    6 April 1969- Avalon Ballroom, SF.

    This show was broadcast on KPFA/KPFB- Berkeley. As such it has been in circulation forever, I had a cassette 40 years ago. It's a long time favorite and one of the first 1969 shows I had on tape "back in the day."

    Highlights- It's All Over Now, Baby Blue; King Bee; That's It For the Other One > Death Don't Have No Mercy; Viola Lee Blues.

    During VLB all the power to the stage is cut just as the boys are reaching the crescendo, so they finish the tune a cappella (the vocal mics are still working) and call it a night.
     
  2. mBen989

    mBen989 Senior Member

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    You say lack of ego, I say lack of film in camera.
     
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  3. mBen989

    mBen989 Senior Member

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    Funny you mentioned The Grateful Dead Movie; I showed it to my brother the Phish phanatic last night.
     
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  4. mBen989

    mBen989 Senior Member

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    This morning's listen.

    "And I turned twenty-one in prison doing life without parole
    No one could steer me right but mama tried, mama tried
    Mama tried to raise me better, but her pleading I denied
    That leaves only me to blame 'cause mama tried"


    S/T ("Skull & Roses", "Skull ****") (original Warners CD mastered by Joe Gaswirt)

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    I haven't decided if I'll buy the new CD but I would get any new vinyl.
     
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  5. fishcane

    fishcane Dirt Farmer

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    We are everywhere...

    they say inxs and I agree , I say maybe shakedown as well
     
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  6. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    They had plenty of film the first night. By night 5 they had to skip filming the first set, and missed a classic China > Rider.
     
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  7. profusion

    profusion Forum Resident

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    That is just so classically GD. LOL
     
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  8. mBen989

    mBen989 Senior Member

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    Well, at least it's on the soundtrack album...I hope.
     
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  9. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    I seem to remember reading they only shot a few songs the first night, fortunately including Playing.
     
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  10. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    No, the one on the album is from 17 October. The first set of the 20th circulates, and is well worth seeking out.

    As it should be on a Sunday night in San Francisco- The Grateful Dead!

    ~ Uncle Bobo, introducing the band on 20 October 1974
     
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  11. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    They had so many cameras running they literally used up all the raw 16 mm film in the Bay Area.
     
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  12. scribbs

    scribbs Resident Mockery

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    It was very weird. I was killing time before picking my wife and kid up from a flight from the promised land.
     
  13. How Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh’s Alembic ‘Mission Control’ pioneered the concept of the boutique bass | Guitar World

    In which we find out why the original Alembic bass disappeared from the stage and wandered for 40 years in the Underworld: a roadie spaced it out.

    There are a lot of shots of the exterior detail- the lamination, carving, abalone inlays, and such- but, strangely, no shots of the electronics. There is some discussion of their functions, although not much detail. As is already well-known, most of the elaboration had to do with providing the bass with quad capability- separate channel settings, filters, and EQ for each of the four strings. But I hadn't realized that the ten ivoroid dots on the body are push-button switches.

    (Wonder of wonders! Phil finally has a venue where the latent potential of those subtleties could be activated and made audible to a concert crowd - his home room at Terrapin Crossroads.)

    There's an Etsy business to be built on making guitar straps like the one that Phil got for that bass, incidentally.
     
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  14. US Blues

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  15. Phoenician

    Phoenician Resident Forum

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    Hmm, I'm confused by some of the dates given in that article since there are photos of Phil playing Big Brown in front of the Wall of Sound.
     
  16. right, and I'm supposing that the little brass compartment by the strap peg is for a 9 volt battery, to supply power to the active electronics. There's a scene in The Movie where Phil opens up the electronics compartment, yes? It's been some years since I last viewed the film in its entirety.
     
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  17. The Wall of Sound was first deployed in late March of 1974, and the article mentions that the Alembic made its first appearance on June 16 1974.
     
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  18. profusion

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    He played both basses in '74, I believe. Big Brown had a similar electronics setup retrofitted. Apparently, the electronics weren't very reliable on the road, so the Alembic spent a good amount of time being repaired.

    Interestingly, I've spent the last two months or so listening to all of 1974 back-to-back, and I only recall one instance (in a Seastones) where the quad pickup/WoS speaker placement feature is noticeable on the soundboard recording.

    It's the kind of thing that's great in theory but way too fussy to use much in practice.
     
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  19. tdcrjeff

    tdcrjeff Senior Member

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    That's a 5-pin XLR jack, seen better here:
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  20. Bigthunder

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    Is Mind Wondrin active on this thread? Reveal yourself
     
  21. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    You'll hear the quad bass working well on the 18 October 1974 Seastones. :agree:
     
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  22. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    That may be the quad connector for the 4 separate strings being delivered to the WOS as 4 signals.
     
  23. Last Turkey In The Shop

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    I know GD are anything but progrock, but which lp is the nearest to prog.
    (I recently saw a lp copy of Terrapin Station and I think that's the one to go for.)
     
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  24. profusion

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    Blues for Allah is the proggiest GD album, by far.
     
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  25. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    Or Terrapin Station (side two only!)
     
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