They did complete it. Sterling Morrison has stated that it exists, but that they could not use it on the 1980s compilations due to tape-damage. He told UMG that the instrumental version existed and hence they found the tape of that and used it instead. When I hear the track as performed on this newly found recording, I hear something of the instant pop songs Reed was writing and recording for Pickwick. So, maybe he wrote it specifically to appeal.
Were there TVs in '67 with headphone jacks? If so, then yeah, that could produce this recording. But every recorded-from-TV-speakers-in-the-60s recording I've heard sound exactly like it was recorded from TV speakers in the 60s. This does not sound like that. No, I don't think it's faked to sound like the show. Just saying we can't be sure that someone didn't edit that applause on. I'm coming from being a big Syd-era Pink Floyd collector and people were always doing stuff like that. A number of fakes were made. But no, I don't think that was done here and I do believe that this is likely the VU on Upbeat. It does seem like a purposely shortened version of the song and the applause sounds right. And I think Lou was trying to be controversial by saying speed freak on TV. But no one cared because they were the VU on Upbeat, not The Doors on Sullivan.
What's the details on knowing they don't have the Chelsea Girls master? I hadn't heard that. Do you mean the multi-tracks or mix down masters?
I see. That's a shame but I guess to be expected since the VU & Nico multis don't exist either. Do they exist for WL/WH? They obviously do for the outtakes. Loaded was the only album they remixed so I wonder if it's the only one where the multis exist?
Yes, I found an interview a few months back maybe last year, but I didn’t bookmark it and now cannot find it to corroborate this information. I wonder how bad the damage is and whether they’d perhaps have another think about releasing it.
Unfortunately, I think the fact that they didn't use it on the WL/WH 45th doesn't give much hope. Those sets put out material under the 50 year copyright window and also, the WL/WH package was so skimpy they were splitting up The Gift's channels into separate tracks to try and make it look like more material. Those were two big reasons to use it if it were usable.
There were a couple of untitled recordings on the white light sessions not used. Two session on Here She Comes Now - which might mean nothing but might mean there's another version The Velvet Underground Maureen Tucker, percussion; Lou Reed, vocals, lead guitar, piano; Sterling Morrison, vocals, guitar, bass guitar; John Cale, vocals, electric viola, organ, bass guitar. NYC, September 25, 1967 103536 The Gift Verve V/V6-5046 103537 Here She Comes Now - 103538 unknown title unissued 103539 Sister Ray Verve V/V6-5046 103540 Lady Godiva's Operation - 103541 White Light/White Heat Verve VK-10560, V/V6-5046, V6-653-2 103542 unknown title unissued? 103543 - - 103544 - - 103545 I Heard Her Call My Name Verve V/V6-5046, V6-653-2 103546 Here She Comes Now Verve VK-10560 I also checked Nico and there were no unused recordings listed. You can search for Nico on this page: Verve Records Discography: 1967
You're probably right. One thing in our favour generally, is that now Lou Reed is not involved in deciding what gets released.
When I listen to the demo for Here She Comes Now, and the hear how they were able to transform it into such a great recording for the album, it really makes me wish they had tried all of those demos in the studio. Someone made a big mistake not granting the VU unlimited studio time.
Would have been nice to hear them all recorded during the WLWH sessions period. I love those demos and wish there were more.
I love them too. And Here She comes sounds like the least interesting of the demos (or maybe second least), so go figure. I imagine that was due to Cale’s influence, to go with the more shocking lyrical song.
I can hear the drums (and what sounds like muted bass locked in with the drums) on the 'Upbeat' recording - especially during the guitar solo. The thuds of the drums are very evident. It's definitely a different recording than earlier recorded attributions of the song to Upbeat. Sounds like it's clean enough to fit the bill for the TV show - an energetic beat-combo workout. Kids seem to dig it. Too bad there's not film/video footage of the event.
I can't imagine there's a whole lot left to hear, though when they did the 45th anniversary Loaded box set a few years ago, they didn't include the bonus material on vinyl, which was a little bit of a drag. I always preferred the Peel Slowly & See version of "Ocean" to the one on VU
Very exciting! A demo of Ocean turned up a while ago. Its run time matches the one on the list shown in that video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkE_VAs6qMo
pretty cool! i wonder how much Adams got for them, or how much the collector got....and if this will outsell the original album.
