2020 Yamaha Integrated Amps A-S1200/2200/3200

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Deadly_Icy_Calm, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. matrix-6

    matrix-6 Forum Resident

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    Why does your mind go immediately to tacky? You don't have to go gaudy.

    Case in point: I have a black A-S1100. The meter lights are that warm yellowish color. I like it but I'd love to seem them in that classic green. The point is I would be able set it to what I want and I'd have multiple dimmer/brightness options, not just one dimmer switch.

    Do a search for stereo meters online and you'll see some examples.

    https://musicianonamission.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/vu-meter-70433_1280.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/2a/08/512a08d66e49ad9d755be24ca7ac3327.jpg

    There are more..

    Google Image Result for https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?attachments/1553388257974-png.24046/
     
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  2. OC Zed

    OC Zed Bludgeon Riffola

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    I don't think I've noticed a difference. We usually leave the meters off as they start to distract me after a while.
     
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  3. scobb

    scobb Forum Resident

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    Thank you for providing pictures that prove my point entirely!
     
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  4. matrix-6

    matrix-6 Forum Resident

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    You be you.
     
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  5. matrix-6

    matrix-6 Forum Resident

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    Check out this one:

     
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  6. I’d be a bit miffed if one of the meters was off, especially for a product at this price point. How tough would it be for Yamaha to get this right?
     
  7. scobb

    scobb Forum Resident

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    Classic "Slimer" green!
    [​IMG]
    Hmmmm lovely?!?
     
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  8. Itamar.K

    Itamar.K Well-Known Member

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    Did someone compared the A-S1200 and the Luxman 505uX / II ?
    Can't really understand if the Luxman has BETTER sound quality? No doubt there are differences in sound signature and presentation...but overall LEVEL OF QUALITY, are the these similar or the Luxman a step above?
    I heard the older Yamaha models and current Luxman at dealers
    Thanks!
     
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  9. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Played my system, with my new A-S2200 for my girlfriend yesterday. She said it sounds "different," "expensive" and "classy." She, like, me, could hear things in the music we sampled that she hadn't heard before. I'm at about 75 hours. Focus isn't there yet, but bass sounds incredible. Midrange is smoother, richer than my old amp. Treble hasn't reach full clarity but it is very detailed, while being very musical.
     
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  10. aunitedlemon

    aunitedlemon Unity is in the pith.

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    I hear zero difference between meters off or on. I leave mine off until my kids go to bed as I think the dancing needles might attract boogered fingers...
     
  11. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    What are your speakers( I can’t view your profile)?
     
  12. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Bowers and Wilkins 704 S2.

    Fixed my profile for you.
     
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  13. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    Thanks. I have never heard those speakers but from what I have read they should be mid range champs with beautifully detailed high end but needing a little power.
     
  14. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Yeah, the midrange is really nice, the treble is detailed without being bright. And the bass is surprisingly good for such small woofers.
     
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  15. Thinking on this more, is it truly the meters that are off, or could there be some actual channel imbalance (and the meters are accurately measuring it)?
     
  16. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Thanks for sharing this. It's good to know. I haven't fully burned in yet, so I wasn't going to check this for myself yet.
     
  17. aunitedlemon

    aunitedlemon Unity is in the pith.

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    Maybe with the meters on the sound is "brighter"?
    :doh:
     
  18. LARGERTHAN

    LARGERTHAN Forum Resident

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    Owning the A-S2100, I think there is a very slight perceptible difference with the meters on and off - perhaps the noise floor is lowered a tad with the meters off. To be honest, it is only notable at all for me via a/b testing - I doubt say, if fired up from cold and listening blind, I could tell whether the meters were on or off.

    Overall, I think with this amp there is a slight thinness to the mid-range, notable around male vocals for example, where one might wish for a hint more body.

    Which is not to say it's a bad performer by any stretch, it does many things well - treble is nicely presented though detailed, bass has a decent amount of weight for me also, though notably not as quick as a Hegel I once owned.

    I've said it before, but one can tend to a sort of confirmation bias as well as preconceived notions with these amps given the vintage aesthetic. They're decidedly not that, as in warm etc. I'd even go as far to say they're unique sounding pieces, and would recommend demoing given this presentation, i.e. I wouldn't feel confident recommending a blind purchase.
     
  19. Classicrock

    Classicrock Senior Member

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    Meters are a distraction and not really that useful. I'm sure the illumination must have some effect on SQ. Must admit I would switch then off when listening.
     
  20. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Wow, that's a long time. Thanks for sharing that.

    How long did other people's 1200, 2200 and 3200s take to fully burn in?
     
  21. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Sorry, I am confused. Did you check again?
     
  22. aunitedlemon

    aunitedlemon Unity is in the pith.

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    No, I was just being punny. I couldn't resist.
     
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  23. George P

    George P Notable Member

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    Ok, I get it now. :laugh:

    (I sent you a PM)
     
  24. weavzy

    weavzy Needle Dropper

    I tried to take some photos of mine but I have a very dark record room and the panels are quite dark too, so theyre not an accurate depiction...but here you go anyway...

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  25. scobb

    scobb Forum Resident

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    Sydney, Australia
    Unfortunately this doesn't do it justice but at least you tried!
     

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