Iron Maiden new album, "Senjutsu" - release date September 3, 2021*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jeff Kent, Jun 29, 2021.

  1. alakulju

    alakulju Music is the best! - FZ

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    Sorry, I may have been wrong. For decades I have been under the impression that Mr Herbert stopped them playing it live.
    Can't really remember where I got that info back then.

    Bruce's performance of the middle part "The time has come ... to make it all end" is for me his greatest moment in all Maiden records.
     
  2. PeterSteelePanther

    PeterSteelePanther Forum Resident

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    Iron Maiden for history, Bad Religion and early Metallica for vocabulary.
     
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  3. Ron The Bear

    Ron The Bear Well-Known Member

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    In addition to the title, they wanted to use a spoken word intro quoted from the book. In denying permission, Herbert refused to listen to the song or even look at the lyrics.
     
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  4. Gus Tomato

    Gus Tomato Stop dreamin’ and start drivin’ Stevie!

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    Damn…….
     
  5. Gavaxeman

    Gavaxeman Take me back to dear old Blighty...

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    I read Dune ..back in 84 ..didn’t understand it much
    Watched the Lynch movie..understand it less
    Listened to To Tame a Land ..no idea ...

    Hope the new movie finally makes sense
     
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  6. Leigh Burne

    Leigh Burne Forum Resident

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    Compare that to Patrick McGoohan’s alleged response to the request for a soundbite in “The Prisoner” - ‘What did you say the name was? A rock band, you say? Do it.’
     
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  7. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Repeating myself. To Tame A Land is fantastic.
     
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  8. rubberhead

    rubberhead You could pay as little as $5 per treatment*

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    The book is a fantastic story but Herbert is a terrible writer. Still, a classic space opera. The movie is incomprehensible for a variety of reasons. The song lyrics are like they hired a 10-year-old to write a book jacket blurb.
     
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  9. Gus Tomato

    Gus Tomato Stop dreamin’ and start drivin’ Stevie!

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    And Rod Smallwood apparently a nervous wreck ringing him up!
     
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  10. Zongadude

    Zongadude Music is the best

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    It's by far my favorite Maiden song.
    All of Maiden's greatness is there, and yet it still has a unique flavor.
     
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  11. The Slipperman

    The Slipperman Forum Resident

    I love the music in To Tame A Land but you're right about the lyrics. Incomprehensible to anyone who hadn't read the book. Maiden would do much better with Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
     
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  12. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    One mans incomprehensible is another mans enigmatic.
     
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  13. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Senior Member

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    Yes those lyrics are some incomprehensible premium spice melange.


    To Tame a Land

    He is the King of all the land
    In the Kingdom of the sands
    Of a time tomorrow

    He rules the sand worms and the Freemen
    In the land amongst the stars
    Of an age tomorrow

    He is destined to be a King
    He rules over everything
    On the land called planet Dune

    Body water is your life
    And without it you would die
    On the desert, the planet Dune

    Without a stillsuit you would fry
    On the sands so hot and dry
    In a world called Arrakis

    It is a land that's rich in spice
    The sand riders and the mice
    That they call the 'Muad' Dib'

    He is the Kwizatz Haderach
    He is born of Caladan
    And will take the Gom Jabbar

    He has the power to foresee
    Or to look into the past
    He is the ruler of the stars

    The time will come for him
    To lay claim his crown
    And then the foe
    Yes, they'll be cut down

    You'll see he'll be
    The best that there's been
    Messiah supreme
    True leader of men

    And when the time
    For judgement's at hand
    Don't fret he's strong
    He'll make a stand

    Against evil
    The fire that spreads through the land
    He has the power
    To make it all end

     
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  14. Curveboy

    Curveboy Forum Resident

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    It's almost as bad reading the words alone as it is trying to listen to it...

    (and I love the novel)
     
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  15. malcolm reynolds

    malcolm reynolds Handsome, Humble, Genius

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    Love Lynch's Dune and Maiden's To Tame A Land. I had no problem following the song after seeing the movie. I tried reading the novel but kept nodding off.
     
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  16. Gavaxeman

    Gavaxeman Take me back to dear old Blighty...

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    T
    new movie looks great
     
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  17. Gus Tomato

    Gus Tomato Stop dreamin’ and start drivin’ Stevie!

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    Steve Harris does love his books and movies!
     
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  18. Gavaxeman

    Gavaxeman Take me back to dear old Blighty...

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    I did seriously well in English at school when I knew who Samuel Coleridge was and could quote parts of the Ancient Mariner ...teacher thought I was gifted ..little did he know
     
  19. Ron2112

    Ron2112 Forum Resident

    "To Tame a Land" was a mainstay on the 1983 tour. Herbert stopped them from calling the song "Dune", but that was it. Bruce responded by cussing out Frank Herbert during the intro to this song most nights. Here's a version with Bruce on one of his kinder nights:

     
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  20. Ron2112

    Ron2112 Forum Resident

    .......and here's a version of "To Tame A Land" where Bruce was apparently not feeling quite so restrained........

     
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  21. obi

    obi Forum Resident

    It’s a great song but the lyrics are terrible. They sound like a first draft/brainstorm for a lyric based on the book that was never further developed.
    It’s the same problem with Alexander the Great. Amazing musical composition, but the lyrics are just random listings of “in this he did this and then in that year he did that. And then… and then…”
    I really love Iron Maiden but it’s not because of their lyrics. I think at their best they write serviceable lyrics and at their worst you get something like “Age of Innocence”.
     
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  22. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

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    Brave New World is close to a flawless album imo.

    How anyone calling themselves a fan not at least recognize its quality (even if they dont enjoy it) is beyond me
     
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  23. Markyp

    Markyp Forum Resident

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    That’s the worst part of the lyric. Such a mouthful.

    “Sing it with me Long Beach”

    Nah, you’re alright Bruce.
     
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  24. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    I agree. Except, you know, different tastes. You will also find people who dislike Revolver.
    But as i’ve said, i find BNW the only post 7th son album that is as good as the 80s stuff.
     
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  25. Leigh Burne

    Leigh Burne Forum Resident

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    I dunno, I really rate Fear of the Dark, even if it is two or three songs too long. But otherwise I pretty much agree.
     

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