Making A Case For Revolution No. 9 ? Genius?

Reading the 'lyrics' while listening to it makes it even creepier than it already is.

 

I actually prefer Joe Butler's War Games from the Spoonful because of its structure and theme.

 

Lyrics ( spoken/sing)

Bottle of Clarett for you if I'd realized
I'd forgotten all about it George, I'm sorry
Will you forgive me?
Mom yes
Cheeky Bit*h

 

Goodnight could also work as encore after an evening performance.

 

I enjoy it and it's well-crafted, but it's very derivative, so I wouldn't call it "genius."

 

Nothing is real.

 

We just had a lengthy debate about the validity of this track a few weeks ago. Some people hate it, some people don't.

 

It’s, “mmm..yes”. Where’d the “mom” come from?

 

Hearing "Revolution 1 (Take 20)" when it leaked online back in 2009 blew my mind. I had had no idea that Revolution 9 was essentially the extended outro of Revolution 1.

I'm still disappointed Take 20 didn't make it onto the White Album box but Take 18 is pretty good too.

 

I much prefer it to You Know My Name

 

Sound collages can be interesting. Or they can be tedious pieces of crap. Rev9 is somewhere in the middle.

On the positive side, it can be interesting if you fall asleep while listening to the album and find yourself in a daze while this piece is on. And the transition from Rev9 to Good Night is quite nice.

Other than that, the selected sound pieces have nothing to do with the album (being random selections from the EMI library rather than pieces created by the Beatles during the creation of the WA) nor have they anything obvious to do with the theme of a revolution.

Collages (audio or visual) should have some discernable theme. If they don't, then they're just a bunch of random noises crammed together.

 

Is it supposed to be "Welsh Rare Bit"?

I seem to remember mum making some kind of food that was called this when I was a pup.

 

Rev 9 is a collage inspired and created by drugs. I wouldn't really call it genius.
It is certainly interesting, and the 5.1 makes it much more listenable.

 

If I may plead a case, your honor:
Think of me...and my middle-class suburban upbringing.
I wouldn't be the weird-music loving freak I am today, without "Rev.9" entering my life!
I went into it blind, not knowing anything about it when I first heard it.
YES, at first listen, I was like, 'OK!..Get to the BEAT!", and, when it faded out, and "Goodnight" started, I was like, 'That's it?'
That didn't stop me from wanting to hear it again, and understanding 'why' is was....
I don't think I would've took the time to investigate what 'musique concrete' was, and, when you find stuff that's BETTER than "Rev 9", you like John even more for making such a bold experiment.

 

Abstract painting comes to mind no shoulds about it. I think that’s more of what John was going for here.

 

Most likely spellchuck.

 

Part of me feels that, because it is a John & Yoko construct (more Yoko than John, I suspect), it has no place on a Beatles album. But then it does something as a part of the whole that kind of saves the album as a double lp concept. Without it, the argument for four sides - and with that the case for the inclusion of [at least a few] of the other songs - really starts to crumble imo.

 

…ahhh…that dastardly spell check!!

 

Definitely not genius but I think it could have been created minus substances as well.

 

Yes the great equalizer. The only technology that makes dumb people look smarter & visa versa.

 

Then there's this Welsh Rare Bit

 

What works do you think it most derives from? I think most rock and roll songs are more derivative, and that's not really a bad thing, it's just part of what a genre is.

 

There’s a good 20 years worth of sound collage predating Rev9. Check out Fontana Mix by John Cage for one. I’m quite sure Ono and Lennon were familiar with it.

 

It could have been, but we know it wasn't lol

 

Causing a division is a bit of an exaggeration....Paul objected to it due to his work with loops and such a few years before.