Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time: Song-By-Song Thread

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  1. Wild Horse

    Wild Horse Forum Resident

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    Back That Azz Up

    It's hilarious to think anyone would put this on the best 500 songs of all time list

    0/5

    So What-Miles Davis
    You're So Vain - Carly Simon
    Without You - Nilsson
    Oye Como Va - Santana
    I Can't Help Myself - Four Tops
    Baby Love - Supremes
    Cross Road Blues - Robert Johnson
    Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
    Welcome To The Jungle-Guns N' Roses
    Buddy Holly-Weezer
     
  2. Jamsterdammer

    Jamsterdammer The Great CD in the Sky

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    478. Juvenile feat. Lil Wayne and Mannie Fresh, “Back That Azz Up”

    I'm really puzzled how something as generic and bland as this can end up in a Top 500. I don't think it's even good enough for a Top 500 of purely rap and hip-hop. if there is such a thing as MOR rap, well, this is it I guess, with of course the obligatory puerile lyrics. I'm not even going to rate it. By the way, I can't find any info on this song or the album having had any impact whatsoever in Europe or the UK. You would at least expect a list like this to focus on songs that had at least some minor international success.
     
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  3. BluesOvertookMe

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    Biz Markie - Just a Friend

    A fun song that a few voters remember with a smile? Absolutely. A Top 500 song of all time? No, I don't think so. But compared to some other songs we've already seen, I understand its inclusion.

    My list sorted so far:
    1. Carly Simon - You're So Vain
    2. Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
    3. Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
    4. The Four Tops – I Can’t Help Myself
    5. Pixies - Where is My Mind?
    6. Robert Johnson - Cross Roads Blues
    7. Weezer - Buddy Holly
    8. Miles Davis - So What
    9. Kanye West - Stronger
    10. Townes Van Zandt - Pancho and Lefty
    11. The Breeders - Cannonball
    12. Nilsson - Without You
    13. Azealia Banks -212
    14. Solange: Cranes In The Sky

    (big gap)

    15. Lil Nas X - Old Town Road
    16. Biz Markie - Just a Friend
    17. Lil Wayne - A Milli
    18. The Weeknd – House of Balloons
    19. Lizzo - Truth Hurts
    20. Supremes - Baby Love
    21. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
     
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  4. Terrapin Station

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    Yeah, if I were doing my own top 500 song list, I don't know what percentage of selections are things that would have been singles, but probably not more than half. And then only a subset of the singles would have had chart success. It's not something I'd pay attention to when compiling my list, but definitely stuff like "Wichita Lineman" (Glen Campbell), "Living for the City" (Stevie Wonder) and "September" (Earth, Wind & Fire) would be on my list, and I know those were released as singles and had chart success.
     
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  5. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    "Back That Azz Up"

     
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  6. BluesOvertookMe

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    Santana - Oye Cómo Va

    One of 6-7 Santana songs I could have chosen that would have potentially made a Top 500, Oye Como Va is a great exciting song, very well played. Like others have stated, Samba Pa Ti might have been a better choice. It's a very close battle with You're So Vain, but it's my new #1 so far for this list.

    My list sorted so far:
    1. Santana - Oye Cómo Va
    2. Carly Simon - You're So Vain
    3. Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
    4. Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
    5. The Four Tops – I Can’t Help Myself
    6. Pixies - Where is My Mind?
    7. Robert Johnson - Cross Roads Blues
    8. Weezer - Buddy Holly
    9. Miles Davis - So What
    10. Kanye West - Stronger
    11. Townes Van Zandt - Pancho and Lefty
    12. The Breeders - Cannonball
    13. Nilsson - Without You
    14. Azealia Banks -212
    15. Solange: Cranes In The Sky

    (big gap)

    16. Lil Nas X - Old Town Road
    17. Biz Markie - Just a Friend
    18. Lil Wayne - A Milli
    19. The Weeknd – House of Balloons
    20. Lizzo - Truth Hurts
    21. Supremes - Baby Love
    22. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
     
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  7. RudolphS

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    Juvenile feat. Lil Wayne - Back That Azz Up

    Must've missed Juvenile back then because I never heard of him. Listening to 'Back That Azz Up' now, it's nothing groundbreaking or something, just a very catchy mainstream hiphop track. The most interesting ingredient is the production.

    3,5 / 5
     
  8. Flaevius

    Flaevius Left of the dial

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    #478 Juvenile - Back That Azz Up
    Turd. Next.

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  9. BluesOvertookMe

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    She had dumps like a truck, truck, truck
    Thighs like what, what, what


    Oops, wrong song. :p
     
  10. BluesOvertookMe

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    Juvenile - Back That Azz Up

    Looks like I am the only one so far that would consider this as a Top 500 song. I own the album strictly for this song (although Ghetto Children is cool, too).
    This is that New Orleans sound, influenced by Bounce Music - I am from the South, so I do enjoy Southern Hip Hop artists - from New Orleans, Atlanta, Houston, and Miami - it connects with me. Mannie Fresh's production is quite interesting and has a lot going on, but it works instead of being a mess. First time I heard Lil Wayne was when he and Juvenile were in the Hot Boy$ with Juvenile, and I would have thought Juvenile would have been the one with the bigger career - oops. :hide:

    My list sorted so far:
    1. Santana - Oye Cómo Va
    2. Carly Simon - You're So Vain
    3. Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
    4. Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
    5. The Four Tops – I Can’t Help Myself
    6. Pixies - Where is My Mind?
    7. Robert Johnson - Cross Roads Blues
    8. Weezer - Buddy Holly
    9. Miles Davis - So What
    10. Kanye West - Stronger
    11. Townes Van Zandt - Pancho and Lefty
    12. Juvenile - Back That Azz Up
    13. The Breeders - Cannonball
    14. Nilsson - Without You
    15. Azealia Banks -212
    16. Solange: Cranes In The Sky

    (big gap)

    17. Lil Nas X - Old Town Road
    18. Biz Markie - Just a Friend
    19. Lil Wayne - A Milli
    20. The Weeknd – House of Balloons
    21. Lizzo - Truth Hurts
    22. Supremes - Baby Love
    23. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
     
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  11. KJTC

    KJTC Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I’m not surprised it’s on here. It was a huge record back in the day and broke through to the larger pop culture.

    I’m of the mindset that there are a couple thousand songs that would fit just fine in this top five hundred. I don’t think it’s a long enough list, really, for how much ground it wants to cover. So most of these songs make sense to me, yet could all be replaced by another set of songs that would also make sense to me.
     
  12. mianfei

    mianfei Forum Resident

    Even for Rolling Stone and the “mainstream” critics I read at Melbourne University in the late 1990s, popular music did not correspond to good music, although mentally and emotionally at the time I did not grasp this. However, ever since reading Joe S. Harrington in the early 2000s, it has been clear that in most eras popular is more likely to mean bad than good.

    This makes it ipso facto problematic to make a list of best songs. Artists outside the mainstream of commercial radio are with few exceptions much less likely to rely on individual songs than upon albums, and even the few that are would tend to be compiled into compilations. This means that finding the best individual songs would take more intense listening than finding the best albums.

    Personal experience pre-dating my reading of Joe S. Harrington agrees with this conclusion. More often than not – it would be far too laborious to count – the song(s) I consider best on any album are different from the critical consensus and/or from which song(s) were most popular.
    I agree, although I would think without counting that I could fit more singles than twenty.
     
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  13. Brian Kelly

    Brian Kelly 1964-73 rock's best decade

    Back That Azz Up (Juvenile)
    This is the kind of slow rap that just puzzles me. Calling it boring is too kind. I just don't get the appeal at all. I can tell you for sure it doesn't belong on this list. And "featuring" the awful Lil Wayne does not help.
    (0.5/5)


    Rating the songs so far:
    1. You're So Vain - Carly Simon
    2. Buddy Holly-Weezer
    3. Cannonball-Breeders
    4. I Can't Help Myself-Four Tops
    5. Oy Como Va-Santana
    6. Baby Love - Supremes
    7. Without You - Nilsson
    8. Cross Road Blues-Robert Johnson
    9. Pancho And Lefty-Townes Van Zandt
    10. Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
    11. So What-Miles Davis
    12. Just A Friend-Biz Markie
    13. Bad Romance-Lady Gaga
    14. 212-Azelia Banks
    15. Cranes In The Sky -Solange
    16. Where Is My Mind?-Pixies
    17. Welcome To The Jungle-Guns N' Roses
    18. Old Town Road-Lil Naz
    19. Truth Hurts-Lizzo
    20. House Of Balloons-The Weeknd
    21. Stronger-Kayne West
    22. Back That Azz Up-Juvenile
    23. A Milli-Lil Wayne

    Once I get to a top 40 I'm not going to drop the bottom songs if a new song places higher.

    RS still hasn't included a top 500 songs from the 2000's in my opinion. Only #1-#3 are definite top 500 with 4-7 contenders were I making my own list. #14-#23 would not even be considered for my top 50,000 songs!
     
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  14. Chief

    Chief Over 12,000 Served

    “Back That Azz Up” - Juvenile feat Lil Wayne and Mannie Fresh

    This is the kind of track that started to convince me that I was already losing the plot with rap. Cash Money never worked for me. I didn’t care for the production style or the rappers. But the sound heard on “Back That Azz Up” was very influential and can’t still be heard in trap styles now. Whereas, my favorite East Coast tracks are largely forgotten. I never hear the sound of, say Pete Rock, in anything modern.
     
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  15. John54

    John54 Senior Member

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    Lil Wayne again? Back already?

    As with 99.9% of rap, I've never heard Back That Azz Up before. I think it's well done actually, with very good rhythm (maybe the best of the hip hop tracks thus far) and pleasant, string-based and sometimes dreamy music. I've heard a lot worse in the broader musical world, and on the RS list. The lyrics of course aren't exactly inspirational, the habit of ending every line with "yeah" is a drawback, and (as with a lot of rap) it makes you wish they had learned how to write a melody, and how to sing.

    In short, I can take this sort of stuff in small doses. It's not something I'd ever be likely to seek out, but if it started playing where I was, I wouldn't be fleeing out the door either.
     
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  16. danasgoodstuff

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    It's worse than that, the voters only got to list 50 songs each, so some significant number of them thought this was one of the 50 greatest songs of all time.
     
  17. KJTC

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    #477. The Go-Gos, “Our Lips Are Sealed” (1981)
    Written by Jane Wiedlin, Terence Edward Hall

    Wikipedia says:

    “Our Lips Are Sealed" is a song co-written by Jane Wiedlin, guitarist of the Go-Go's, and Terry Hall, singer of the Specials and Fun Boy Three.

    It was first recorded by the Go-Go's as the opening track on their album Beauty and the Beat (1981) and was their debut American single in June 1981. The single eventually reached the top 5 in Australia and Canada, and the top 20 in the United States. Although originally written and performed with three verses, an abbreviated version of the song appears on Beauty and the Beat. Although most of the song's lead vocals are performed by usual lead singer Belinda Carlisle, co-writer Wiedlin sings the bridge. In 1983, Hall's band, Fun Boy Three, released their version of "Our Lips Are Sealed". Issued as a single, the track became a top ten hit in the United Kingdom and remains the best known version of "Lips" in that country. The recording by the Go-Go's, while a bigger hit elsewhere, only made No. 47 in the UK.





     
  18. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    RS #477

    The Go-Gos – “Our Lips Are Sealed” [from Beauty and the Beat]

    I was never that much of a Go-Go’s fan, so this is the first time in quite a few years that I’ve given both Beauty and the Beat and “Our Lips Are Sealed” a spin. Of course, even without listening to commercial music radio during the 1980s (I haven’t listened to it since then—the playlists started getting too narrow; I can’t stand that), I’ve still heard “Our Lips Are Sealed” so many times over the years that it’s seared into my brain.

    It’s not that I hated the Go-Go’s when they came out or anything—I thought they were “just okay.” They didn’t excite me enough to want to explore their discography in any depth at the time, and that wasn’t helped by seeing them in concert (opening up for . . . geez, I forget now—did they maybe open up for the Who at some point?) and thinking they were pretty boring on stage. Still, I have them ranked as a 6th tier artist, top 2501-5000, which isn’t too bad considering that they could be 9th tier and at least 15,000 slots lower. And at this point I do have all of the Go-Go’s albums in my collection (aided by them having a fairly small discography), plus some offshoot stuff, and I like all of that a bit better than I did when they first appeared on the scene, though I’d still not say I’m much of a Go-Go’s fan.

    Listening to “Our Lips Are Sealed” again now for this list, it strikes me just what a well-crafted, catchy pop track it is, though it’s maybe a bit too “clean”/“ironed-out” for its own good. It’s kind of like a “fast food” track. It tastes great while you’re consuming it, but then it has aftereffects where you’re skeptical instead and you quickly forget how you felt during the experience and you wonder if you shouldn’t avoid consuming it again.

    Analyzing it more closely, though, it’s really just a few elements that make it exceptional—the most substantial one being the vocals. Both Belinda Carlisle’s primary vocal and songwriter Jane Wiedlin’s bridge vocal have fantastic melodies that suit their ranges well, so that they’re really attractive timbrally, too—especially Carlisle’s part pushes her range in just the right way. And the two different vocal styles complement each other well, too. Aside from that, what makes the song is (a) the chorusy melodic guitar accents (they sound like something the Edge would play) on the verses, (b) the bass part, which is also effectively melodic and often enough contrapuntal, (c) the prechorus turnaround progression, which is relatively simple but still quite quirky, and (d) the bridge. The rest of the tune would seem almost throwaway without these five things, two of which are relatively small elements percentage-wise, but they have a big impact.

    Moving on, I was surprised that the album’s second track, “How Much More,” pleasantly reminded me of Blondie’s punkier early days. I don’t remember having that impression before. That continued on some other tracks, and most of the rest of the album also clicked with me better than it ever had previously, though I still didn’t love it, exactly.

    “Our Lips Are Sealed” might make a top 100 “chart successful” songs of the 80s (if it wouldn’t it would be close to the cut-off), but I doubt I’d have it in a top 500 songs overall.

    My top 15 tracks so far:
    1. "Time After Time" - Cyndi Lauper
    2. "Without You" – Nilsson
    3. "You're So Vain" - Carly Simon
    4. “I Can’t Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)” – Four Tops
    5. “Oye Como Va” - Santana
    6. "Baby Love" – Supremes
    7. “Bad Romance” – Lady Gaga
    8. "So What" - Miles Davis
    9. "Welcome to the Jungle" - Guns N' Roses
    10. “Cannonball” – The Breeders
    11. “Just Friends” – Biz Markie
    12. “Buddy Holly” – Weezer
    13. “Our Lips Are Sealed” – The Go-Go’s
    14. “A Milli” – Lil Wayne
    15. "Truth Hurts" – Lizzo
     
  19. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    The Go-Go’s song is great pop/New Wave. Certainly one of the better radio songs of its time, which in America anyway was truly dire.

    I prefer the subtle desperation of “Vacation”. I don’t feel like it’s all that culturally significant (except it’s an all/women band.) but I’m glad it made the list.
     
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  20. prymel

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    “Our Lips Are Sealed” 5/5 – Fantastic song from one of the best pop albums ever recorded. Still weaves its magic forty years on.

    Top 10:
    1. Cannonball – Breeders
    2. Our Lips Are Sealed – Go-Go’s
    3. You're So Vain - Carly Simon
    4. Oye Como Va - Santana
    5. I Can’t Help Myself – Four Tops
    6. Where Is My Mind? - Pixies
    7. Baby Love - Supremes
    8. Without You – Nilsson
    9. Buddy Holly - Weezer
    10. Welcome To The Jungle - Guns N' Roses
     
  21. NettleBed

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    Our Lips are Sealed
    A-
    I didn't care about them at all back when they were around; I was listening to what teenage boys listen to. As an adult, I can appreciate what is going on here, which is really excellent pop music.
     
  22. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    “Our Lips Are Sealed” 5/5. The only song I really like by this band.
     
  23. BluesOvertookMe

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    The Go-Gos - Our Lips Are Sealed
    Now we are talking! This song would definitely be in my Top 500, and likely higher than #477. I've always been a bigger fan of Jane than Belinda, so Jane singing the bridge is a highlight. Well crafted, catchy, and a lot of fun. My new #1.


    1. Go-Gos - Our Lips Are Sealed
    2. Santana - Oye Cómo Va
    3. Carly Simon - You're So Vain
    4. Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
    5. Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
    6. The Four Tops – I Can’t Help Myself
    7. Pixies - Where is My Mind?
    8. Robert Johnson - Cross Roads Blues
    9. Weezer - Buddy Holly
    10. Miles Davis - So What
    11. Kanye West - Stronger
    12. Townes Van Zandt - Pancho and Lefty
    13. Juvenile - Back That Azz Up
    14. The Breeders - Cannonball
    15. Nilsson - Without You
    16. Azealia Banks -212
    17. Solange: Cranes In The Sky

    (big gap)

    18. Lil Nas X - Old Town Road
    19. Biz Markie - Just a Friend
    20. Lil Wayne - A Milli
    21. The Weeknd – House of Balloons
    22. Lizzo - Truth Hurts
    23. Supremes - Baby Love
    24. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
     
  24. Jamsterdammer

    Jamsterdammer The Great CD in the Sky

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    477. The Go-Gos, “Our Lips Are Sealed”

    Now here a great song! Pop perfection from the early 1980s during one of the best years in music ever (imo). Upbeat and catchy, but very much in the New Wave vein of the time. the Go-Gos version blows the later Fun Boy Three cover out of the water. Easily a 4/5 or more for me.

    1. Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
    2. Carly Simon - You're So Vain
    3. Breeders - Cannonball
    4. Supremes - Baby Love
    5. The Go-Gos - Our Lips Are Sealed
    6. Four Tops - I Can’t Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)
    7. Robert Johnson - Cross Road Blues
    8. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
    9. Santana - Oye Como Va
    10. Weezer - Buddy Holly
    11. Nilsson - Without You
    12. Biz Markie - Just A Friend
    13. Kanye West - Stronger
    14. Solange - Cranes In The Sky
     
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  25. YarRevenge

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    The Go-Gos – “Our Lips Are Sealed”

    Not bad 2/5
     
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