The Technics SL-1200 GAE/G/GR general questions thread

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Halloween_Jack, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. T86911

    T86911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    France
    Thanks you very much for your help !

    Why i didn't bought a integrate ampli :sigh:

    If i connect the other CD output to the NUO (2nd line input). Can i mix the SL with the CD player ?
    Could the PV1 subwoofer works with this configuration even i play CD trought the NEO and the sub stay connect only on the other C220 main output ?

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  2. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Kentucky
    The GR’s mat is 3mm thick. It syncs to VTA adjustment of carts from 17 to 23mm tall.
     
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  3. Rocat

    Rocat Do you realise, this world is totally fugazi.

    Location:
    Italy
    Thank you. I left the ring at the "zero" position, the arm looks like it's parallel to the record:

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    Now, the real, big problem: sound is badly distorted.

    I tried different tracking force values, double checked the cartridge / arm connection, even the anti skating was tried in different positions: no joy, horrible sound quality is all I'm getting.

    I tried the same albums (last ones by Steven Wilson, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Daft Punk) with my Rega Elys 2: no distortion at all, full, deep sound...I was trying to better my rig's sound quality, no luck so far.

    Any ideas? Again, thank you!
     
  4. t4t3r

    t4t3r Forum Resident

    Location:
    USA
    If it only happens with one cartridge then...
     
  5. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Kentucky
    You are describing a gross tracking force mis adjustment.
     
  6. Rocat

    Rocat Do you realise, this world is totally fugazi.

    Location:
    Italy
    This is what I believed, so I tested it going from tracking force 1 to 2. The firm suggests the use of t.f. 1.8. Thanks!
     
  7. ranch 22b

    ranch 22b Forum Resident

    Location:
    Texas
    Probably a dumb question but did you rebalance the tonearm after installing the Concorde?
     
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  8. Rocat

    Rocat Do you realise, this world is totally fugazi.

    Location:
    Italy
    Absolutely not a dumb question. Yes I did it, but maybe I got it wrong, and it's the only thing I didn't double check, now that I think about it. I will do it again after work, and report. Thank you.
     
  9. Oelewapper

    Oelewapper Plays vinyl instead of installing it on the floor.

    Just use a digital scale to check VTF, that’ll give you a definitive answer.
     
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  10. Joel S

    Joel S Forum Resident

    Thanks. Is the platter flat?
     
  11. Mike70

    Mike70 Forum Resident

    Preamp overloading?
    Bad cantilever / stylus?
    Dirty stylus?
     
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  12. RPM

    RPM Forum Resident

    Location:
    Easter Island
    Integrated won't make things easier.
    The suggested linkage is fine and it will do what you need. Just press tape monitor when using the mixer. In this scenario, the volume pot on the C220 affects the sound, so you'll need to regulate the levels adequately. Don't push the Nuo in red, increase the volume on the C220.
     
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  13. Rocat

    Rocat Do you realise, this world is totally fugazi.

    Location:
    Italy
    @ranch 22b that was it...I did a big mistake: these days I often get home from work late and quite tired, but I wanted to play with the new toy ASAP...I started having problems from the very start, coupling the cartridge with the arm...then something went wrong again when rotating the arm weight and/or setting the tracking force...I didn't double check it!
    Thanks to you, today I started again from point 1 of the manual,getting a new balancing, and now I'm getting a nice sound and no distorsion :angel:
    Lesson learned: do things when not too tired or stressed!

    I really wish to thank you and all the friends who gave me ideas and suggestions :righton:
     
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  14. Ingenieur

    Ingenieur Just a dog looking for a home...

    Location:
    Back in PA
    No dumb questions
    9/10 times it's always something simple
    It needs pointed out because if we made the mistake we likely can't see it.
     
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  15. csgreene

    csgreene Forum Resident

    Location:
    Idaho, USA
    Unless the scale is poorly calibrated.
     
  16. Oelewapper

    Oelewapper Plays vinyl instead of installing it on the floor.

    That explains the low riding stylus.
     
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  17. patient_ot

    patient_ot Senior Member

    Location:
    USA
    Takes all of 3 seconds to calibrate a digital scale with the included calibration weight. Even the cheap ones I've used are deadly accurate.
     
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  18. Mike70

    Mike70 Forum Resident

    now tell us what you find with the concorde :laugh:
     
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  19. Oelewapper

    Oelewapper Plays vinyl instead of installing it on the floor.

    Fair point, however, the average digital scales from any random shop is surprisingly accurate nowadays.
    I once checked a few using some calibration weights (class M1).
     
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  20. ranch 22b

    ranch 22b Forum Resident

    Location:
    Texas
    You're welcome. I'm glad it turned out to be an easy fix. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've been bailed out with advice from here and over at AudioKarma
     
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  21. LAB1904

    LAB1904 Active Member

    Location:
    San Diego
    Yes totally flat, no wobble.
     
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  22. T86911

    T86911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    France

    Sure you know but it's working !

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    Thanks a lot !
     
  23. T86911

    T86911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    France
    It's working !
    Thanks for your advices !
     
  24. T86911

    T86911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    France
    Thanks a lot for your advices !
    I still have to buy 2 more CARDAS rca
    I tested with one Cardas i had and 2 other simple rca

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  25. C.Ludwig

    C.Ludwig Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Kentucky
    Just mounted my new AT-OC9XML to my Technics SL-1210GR via AT-LH11H Headshell. The resonance peak at 6.5 Hz was expected. So far I’ve only had the opportunity to play Classic Hauser which sounds extra crispy when played from my AT-VM540ML. The OC9XML seems to be more akin to my Shure V15 type III/JICO SAS-B: nuanced details. broad sound stage, black as coal backgrounds, and a not so crispy pleasing tone using stock Technics cables to Parasound P6 phono stage.
     
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