Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo Show release*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Mark-10, Feb 17, 2022.

  1. Nielsoe

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    It's not brickwalled. I've been blasting it. It's not brickwalled. It sounds great.
     
  2. TonyCzar

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    I've listened several times, and overall I've heard worse in my life, but there is one song (forget which) which makes me go 'uh-oh' every time it starts.
     
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  3. Nielsoe

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    To put things straight: I've been referring to the vinyl version all along. I haven't listened to any digital version. But the vinyl sounds fantastic and you too will find out when you recieve it. You are in for a blast.
     
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  4. TonyCzar

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    So, "Mannish Boy" starts out as a 100% clone of LYL at the beginning, but morphs into something else before it's done. Anyone else hearing it?
     
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  5. TonyCzar

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    FWIW, B&B shipped platinum. What happened next is left as an exercise for the reader.
     
  6. TonyCzar

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    You think Preston was the problem with MR in '75-'76?
     
  7. MRamble

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    I felt that way with Around and Around.
     
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  8. TonyCzar

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    For a while now, simply posting the numbers on a release can get you some flak. Just be happy no one has called you a music-hating elitist. But there's still time...
     
  9. JoeF.

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    I don't care for brickwalled mastering either, but my ears don't hurt when I listen to this.
     
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  10. hbbfam

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    On what versions of this release is the Atmos. I am listening to the HDtracks. I agree a bit more echo, and probably somewhat bricked, but all in all this is a great release.

    GZ?
     
  11. John D.

    John D. Senior Member

    Is this a digital source vinyl release ?
     
  12. coniferouspine

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    They have several more unreleased live multitrack recordings from 1975/1976 they can still use for a Black & Blue box set. Paris, London, Nice France, Toronto, plus some other US dates.
     
  13. KinkySmallFace1991

    KinkySmallFace1991 Will you come back to me, Sweet Lady Genevieve?

    Listening to this now…this rocks!

    Question: who’s playing the harp on “Mannish Boy”? I can tell Mick’s mid ’70s harp style, and can tell when he’s playing it, but there’s clearly a harp going throughout the song, and it doesn’t sound like it could’ve been Mick.
     
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  14. TonyCzar

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    Not unless he can sing and play at the same time...you're right. At 3rd listen. I started wondering about things like that, in particular "Who the heck is THAT?" on bg vocals.
     
  15. KDubATX

    KDubATX A Darby Man Never Says When

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    Yeah this is awesome I don’t care that I got taken for $30 on the cd even. I’ve paid more for less too many times to count. Cheers.
     
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  16. supermd

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    I know Atmos is available on Apple Music. That’s how I’m listening to it.
     
  17. MRamble

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    Agreed with all the above. I am a huge admirer of Billy Preston's talents. Card-carrying fan here. But my feelings about Preston within the Stones sit squarely between the above and opinions below, but leaning more so on the fact that he just didn't fit with the Stones live on stage as well as he fit with The Beatles, or the Stones for that matter, in the studio.

    Agreed. I had never heard any of the 75 shows when LA '75 was released. I was stoked when I learned that Preston was on this tour but when finally listening to the performances I didn't think it really truly fit. Whatever space he did make for himself seemed to really stick out--some examples listed above.

    On the Mocambo set it's fun to hear the colors he's adding on piano but there's a contrast that's happening that gives me the opposite effect of the results he brought with The Beatles.
     
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  18. TonyCzar

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    The DR numbers are basically all down to 9 at this point in the Stones' Universal catalog, and that alone at 24-bit is not a dealbreaker. I bought the "Bridges" and "Tattoo You" 2009 masters at 24 bit and I think they sound ...okay. "Good", even, if I'm being generous. The superdeluxe 2021 "Tattoo You", however, is a mess. Bought the 24-bit digital for $15. Sampled the core album. Hated it. The catalogue is definitely on a one-way ride to hell in a handbasket. Say what you will about ABKCO, they know the meaning of the word "assets".

    ABKCO: Let's mount our stash of master analog tapes on vintage equipment and capture the result in DSD.
    Universal: Let's throw our tapes on the fire.
     
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  19. HotelYorba101

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    I personally think the audio of this show doesn't sound brickwalled at all. Maybe a little compressed but nothing that extreme to get to "brickwalling" levels IMHO. Either way the compression amounts honestly don't seem bad to me, the audio was totally fine on cans and speakers
     
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  20. pryp

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    It comes from tape at some point. it wasnt digitally recorded at the venue,but along the way to finished product its been brutally butchered by digital sausage fingers...
     
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  21. TwentySmallCigars

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    Yes, but you were only listening with your ears. You needed to be looking at a graph and comparing the waveforms on an an oscilloscope to know for sure if it sounded good.

    Great release, one of the best Stones products in years!
     
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  22. HotelYorba101

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    Totally agreed on all counts! I am enjoying the hell out of this release. Honestly sometimes I do wonder if people are using "brickwalled" just as a synonym for "anything less than DR14"
     
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  23. TonyCzar

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    I thought the GP (grandparent post) was odd. If I know something is brickwalled, or just plain never lets up in the dynamics, I don't put it centimeters away from my eardrum with no escape.
     
  24. pryp

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    Im happy for you. i dont complain for the sake of complaining. Its not possible for me to enjoy brickwalled,digital,reverbey releases. it sucks actually.

    I have realised that theres subjectivity in this matter.
     
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  25. TonyCzar

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    There's subjectivity just on this album. An earlier vinyl review said that ADTL sounded generic, and could even be from 1978. I think that goes for the sonics on that one as well. I remember now that I start feeling a little fatigued at the end of ADTL. But the new album as a whole is not an 80-minute assault (IMHO).
     

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