Ozark (Netflix)

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  1. vegafleet

    vegafleet Forum Resident

    The car crash, teased since the beginning of the season, horrible as it is, with everybody unharmed, is unforgivable bad writing for a show that aims for plausibility. When they get back home in a taxi they are smiling, as if they just had had a scary rollercoaster ride and not a near death experience. The show lost me there.
     
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  2. rockclassics

    rockclassics Senior Member

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    Mainline Florida
    Yeah that car crash was full of holes. Everyone crawls out with out a scratch on them. Totally ridiculous. So was the car crash caused intentionally? It seems to me that it was.
     
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  3. vegafleet

    vegafleet Forum Resident

    We did not see any evidence it was intentional. A truck does invade their lane and Marty has to avoid a head-on collision. The family never express any suspicion it was intentional.
     
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  4. rockclassics

    rockclassics Senior Member

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    When the family got back to their house, someone….don’t recall who he was…says something to the effect of “consider it a warning”. This was the only thing that made me think the accident might have been intentional. I’ll need to go back and rewatch that part.
     
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  5. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    my son is bugging me to watch this!
     
  6. Armjim

    Armjim Music is indeed a gift from Heaven

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    Since everyone has been discussing the ending, my perfect ending would have been Wendy and Marty would have turned into lions and had Camilla's henchman killed right there-particularly since she threatened their children, and you know they had plenty of roughnecks on the property to do their bidding. They then called the Chicago # to have her dispensed with, and warned Ruth just in case Camilla still tried something before she was dealt with I did not like the Byrds, but they are what they are, and I would have liked to have seen Ruth survive if they were going to.
     
  7. Paul J

    Paul J Forum Resident

    Location:
    Baltimore
    Maybe they can have Saul Goodman come in and help Three Langmore on the inheritance of Ruth’s estate.
     
  8. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Guy

    Location:
    Ringwood, NJ
    Was it the best ending? Probably not. Was it a good ending and credible? Yup, and I think it worked.

    The minivan crash was a near-death bonding experience. Sometimes it takes a brush with losing someone to really feel how much you care about them. With the kids now back with the family and Marty and Wendy saying "I love you" to each other(which felt jarring), they were now solid as a unit in a way they hadn't been since the whole cartel mess began. They had done a TON of work to get there.

    No way was that PI going to take that from them. To be honest, I was sick to death of seeing him, and I'm glad he bought it at the end. Breaking and entering to get that "evidence" which would now probably be thrown out...some icon of goodness he was. He was no different than any of the other criminals on the show, obsessed with getting what he wanted. He had everything he wanted, including his old job back, but that wasn't enough. Thanks, Jonah.

    I expect people will be suggesting I see a professional lol.


    Dan
     
  9. Isaac K.

    Isaac K. Forum Resident

    No way this is the end.
     
  10. George P

    George P Notable Member

    Location:
    NYC
    Maybe they'll do a movie
     
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  11. Bungo

    Bungo Forum Resident

    Location:
    Madison, WI
    Was hoping to see
    Wendy get killed off,
    and for the last few episodes of the season it seemed that the writers might have been telegraphing this outcome
    as they made her behavior even more unbearably annoying than usual, possibly in an attempt to elevate viewers' antipathy toward her
    but alas, it was not to be.
     
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  12. Isaac K.

    Isaac K. Forum Resident

    Have you been in a car crash before?
     
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  13. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

    Location:
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    I agree 100%. You could cut the entire car crash thing out of the show, and it would change absolutely nothing. I feel like it was thrown in there to make the audience yell "WTF!"... which, of course, we did.

    I was in a horrendous real crash back in 1996 where I flipped and rolled once, as opposed to rolling 4-5 times like in Ozark. But I did walk away from it, and had to deal with 14 (I counted) fire/rescue/sheriff/police people. Several of them shook my hand and said, "mister, you are the luckiest sumbitch we've met all year. Most of the time we see a wreck this bad, we just hose it down and call the coroner." It looked like this after they rolled it right-side-up:

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    Not my fault, BTW, nobody was hurt, though I was traumatized for a day or two and just lay on the couch and stared at the ceiling.

    Sometimes, stupid crap just happens. No intent, no evil plan, just stupidity.
     
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  14. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

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    I was wondering for a moment if Marty Byrd might literally take Omar Navarro's place, become the biggest drug lord in the world, and have the sister and her henchmen killed off.

    It's interesting that Ruth wound up as the most moral, admirable person in the entire show (to me, anyway). I liked that scene with her seeing her (now-expired) relatives one last time, which was probably a clue as to what was going to happen.
     
  15. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Forum Resident

    Location:
    USA
    I thought the ending was OK. I was hoping that Three was going to come out of nowhere end blast you know who before she pulled the trigger. It would have been a much better part of the ending to see that nasty bit of work get what she deserved!
     
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  16. George Co-Stanza

    George Co-Stanza Forum Resident

    Location:
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    It was at that point where I thought, "This is not going to be a good ending." Sadly, I was not wrong.
     
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  17. vegafleet

    vegafleet Forum Resident


    Me? No, not like that.
     
  18. Tone

    Tone Senior Member

    As the writers said in the "Ozark / Beyond the scenes" episode at the end, Ozark was the story of two families..... the the well-off North Side Chicago Byrde family... and the scrappy Ozark Langmore family...... guess who came out butter-side-up? ... a very American Story.
     
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  19. masswriter

    masswriter Minister At Large

    Location:
    New England
    Ruth should have endured.

    The Laura Linney character should have been dispatched (she is so annoying and tedious, I don't even remember her character's name).

    a stupid ending ....
     
  20. aroney

    aroney Who really gives a...?

    I too was in a similar crash. The key is not to hit anything (tree, pole, wall etc.) so the energy is dispersed.

    Myself and two other passengers walked away with barely a scratch.

    My mom saw the wreckage later in the junk lot and was reduced to tears. Kept talking about a guardian angel. I think she was right. ;)
     
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  21. RoyalScam

    RoyalScam Luckless Pedestrian

    It was the Priest that worked for the cartel, IIRC.
     
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  22. rockclassics

    rockclassics Senior Member

    Location:
    Mainline Florida
    I believe you are right based on my memory. Still need to go back and watch it again to see if he was referring to the van wreck.
     
  23. Isaac K.

    Isaac K. Forum Resident

    It would be pretty easy to bring this show back for another season, and even bring Ruth back with it. The pastor character from the first few seasons survived basically an identical gunshot wound during a convenience store hold up.
     
  24. NettleBed

    NettleBed Forum Transient

    Location:
    new york city
    That would annoy me more than killing her did.

    I can (sometimes grudgingly) accept the TV-show/movie premise that nobody is actually dead unless we see the deed and a body is produced. However, unambiguously doing both of these things and nevertheless going back on it is just wrong, IMO. She was shot at point-blank range by a drug cartel person (who did not need to be in any hurry to leave and who presumably knows how to make sure someone is dead) and we got a long close-up on the motionless body, with a bullet hole in an appropriate place. I don't like the decision to do it, but the show needs to respect that it was was done.
     
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  25. MrGrumpy

    MrGrumpy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Burbank
    Especially since I was thisclose to walking away from the show after her first few scenes in the first episode. Ruth and her accent and her curly hair definitely grew on me. Her lack of attention to security after shooting a druglord and becoming the richest woman in the county was regrettable.
     
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