Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab has been cutting vinyl from digital since a long, long time ago...

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Ben Adams, Jul 14, 2022.

  1. Sex Lies And Master Tapes

    Sex Lies And Master Tapes Gaulois réfractaire

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    Still no update since last thursday.
    From now on i will post an UPDATE only if at least one non-updated album has been updated.

    Good evening, or good afternoon folks.
    And stay safe.
    :)
     
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  2. nightenrock

    nightenrock Forum Resident

    They were mastering from copies, not the original master recordings as advertised. Doesn’t matter if those copies were analog or digital. It was a big old lie of omission. The fact that they hid this for so long and are now apologizing and being more transparent tells us all we need to know.
     
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  3. 666666

    666666 Forum Resident

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    Kinda rude with the goofy spelling. I buy tons of digitally sourced vinyl and like it. I listen to more digital than vinyl. But your comparison makes no sense. What if the mechanic charged you a premium price for your oil and then used the cheaper kind? I mean, the car still runs, right? Doesn't MoFi have a responsibility to its customers to deliver what it says it will deliver?
     
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  4. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    529 big time No's so far.
    Let's assume those folks bought on the average, three One Steps a year at $375. That is a total of almost $200K dollars a year. That is not exactly chump change assuming their revenue is less than $5M/year. They will take notice just from the change is sales from the customers on this forum alone. That is of course unless those No's give in and start buying again. :D
     
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  5. nightenrock

    nightenrock Forum Resident

    It’s worse we probably all know some audiophiles that would buy two copies in order to sell one to fund their own expensive copy. That logic is probably over with now…
     
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  6. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    Plus what else is your mechanic doing deceptively?
    I think in this case I would probably go to a different mechanic.
     
  7. ZippyPippy

    ZippyPippy Forum Resident

    Which might make some reticent to buy, essentially rendering them as None Steps
     
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  8. 666666

    666666 Forum Resident

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    Like the Dead Kennedys said:

    Trust your mechanic to mend your car
    Bring it in to his garage
    He tightens and loosens a few spare parts
    One thing's fixed, another falls apart
    And the rich eat you
     
  9. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    What’s the difference between the master for the first stereo mix & the second stereo mix being called “original” and the masters for mono & stereo mixes being called “original”?

    IIRC, it’s not as though they hid that the Lennon’s were remixes.
     
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  10. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    Is it really “pretty clear” they converted to PCM? :shrug:
     
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  11. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

    If that's true, then all the Sinatras are DSD 64
    SACD files pressed to vinyl.
    That is enough to motivate me to sue them for fraud and misrepresentation.
     
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  12. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    Even if you take a very conservative look at the (unscientific) poll here, as small of a drop in sales of, say, 10% would have a significant impact on their revenues. Or pretty much anybody’s.

    MFSL has already issued a statement.
     
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  13. Uglyversal

    Uglyversal Forum Resident

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    Thats #1,
    There are still several question marks, my next one would did they actually had access to most original tapes to painstakingly digitize them or did they get a USB stick?
     
  14. WilliamWes

    WilliamWes Likes to sing along but he knows not what it means

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    Yes I'm sure some here won't continue buying and it will hurt MoFi some, but it seems lately in life, any time I think everybody's in the same boat and they'll get along, they find a way of dividing and turning on each other like people in the boat are to blame.
     
  15. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    DC area
    I haven’t bought much MFSL in the last 4-5+ years because IMO the value wasn’t there. I may still buy some stuff, but one thing I know is this episode isn’t going to help tip the scales into the “buy” direction.

    I’m not sure I get your boat analogy. Why would anybody but MSFL (and perhaps any “conpirators” be to blame for anything?
     
  16. Cjb2233

    Cjb2233 Forum Resident

    It's kind of funny. Van Halen 1984 one step page says in 2 places mastered from the original master tapes then it says mastering source to be determined later. Seems they continue to want to be slippery about all this.
     
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  17. WilliamWes

    WilliamWes Likes to sing along but he knows not what it means

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    I'm saying 15,000 posts could have been time spent on trying to get compensation for being taken advantage of instead of innocent forum members getting angry at other innocent forum members. Nobody here is to blame.
     
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  18. warpig

    warpig Senior Member

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    I wanted this one really bad also. I do have some nice copies. More than likely I will just hang with them. Really trying to refrain from purchasing MOFI for the time being. I believe in forgiveness but my problem is that MOFI did it for so long and they knew they were deceiving people the whole time.
     
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  19. highfell

    highfell Forum Resident

    I think it also matters that the copy used was digital.
     
  20. HappyFunMiles

    HappyFunMiles Forum Resident

    Or like promising synthetic - and charging synthetic oil prices - but using regular.

    I just want my vinyl to sound fabulous - and ironically, the only One Step I ever bought was The Nightfly - knowing full well it was originally recorded digital. Knowing that MF left that digital step out of their marketing feels disingenuous.
     
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  21. Sex Lies And Master Tapes

    Sex Lies And Master Tapes Gaulois réfractaire

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    Britton, Wunderlich and LoVerde had already started to work on DSD and its integration in the vinyl process late 90s, BEFORE Jim Davis and MD acquired MoFi.
     
  22. Darren McLeod

    Darren McLeod Well-Known Member

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    United Kingdom
    I sold my Nimbus pressing of Desperado and got a one step of the same and a chunk of change. The one step was a huge let down after the Nimbus. Wish I haven't let it go.
     
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  23. Sex Lies And Master Tapes

    Sex Lies And Master Tapes Gaulois réfractaire

    Location:
    Nantes, France
    MoFi still hasn't updated the page of Clapton's Unplugged, which is sold-out for a long time now...
     
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  24. It's simple math:

    A+d=d

    ...where A is analog and d is digital.
     
  25. Shpongle

    Shpongle Forum Resident

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    United Kingdom
    “Others”? Who are these “others” you speak of sir?
     

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