Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab has been cutting vinyl from digital since a long, long time ago...

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Ben Adams, Jul 14, 2022.

  1. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    I understand your point of view.
    I have posted before asking if anyone has guesses what their cost is for making the One Steps? How much are we paying for thinking they are AAA? Isn't part of the premium price linked to the plating process as well?
     
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  2. Shpongle

    Shpongle Forum Resident

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    I think a huge number of young people are buying vinyl simply because it's fashionable. I'm not sure they're bothered by terms like 'all analogue' 'from the master tapes' etc etc. They're happy to just rock up at their friend's house with a bunch of vinyl albums to play on his portable record player.
     
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  3. Britt in VA

    Britt in VA Forum Resident

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    But again, I understand this isn't analog vs. digital, black and white. I understand that people feel deceived and that sucks. As I said, Mofi should be crystal clear from here on out to avoid anything like this in the future.
     
  4. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    I agree. Same with the SACDs. I would like to know if they at least start with the OMR.
     
  5. Night Version

    Night Version Forum Resident

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    Stopped buying new vinyl awhile ago on assumption it’s all digitally sourced. Even sold off a lot of my modern represses. So this is all very validating - you know it’s probably everyone doing it, too.
     
  6. thrivingonariff

    thrivingonariff Forum Resident

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    Look at the MFSL graphic that you've referred to. The DSD is shown as a step after the "original master recording". So is that graphic ambiguous as to what constitutes the OMR? No, it is not.
     
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  7. As is their new Little Feat Columbus live album release BG/ CB cut. .
     
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  8. heartbroken_poet

    heartbroken_poet Forum Resident

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    Yes, for the simple reason that there is no software available to properly work as a mastering engineer and restorer with DSD. Sonoma and TEAC have some apps but they have very limited capabilities. PCM was use at some stage of the mastering for sure.
     
  9. mikedifr0923

    mikedifr0923 Forum Resident

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    Good to know this! Love that album.
     
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  10. heartbroken_poet

    heartbroken_poet Forum Resident

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    The market could have already migrated a long time ago to properly mastered high resolution digital files (with high DR but not smiley EQ) captured from the master tapes and sold in many formats, including the PCM they worked with, but how can you put a file inside a big golden box? lol. Actually not a bad idea: Big golden plated box and a little pendrive with the hires file inside among the posters and all that expensive cardboard reproductions.
     
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  11. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    You are probably right but all of my young relatives and other young folks I have talked to that listen to vinyl and CDs and other strictly digital sources say they like the sound of vinyl more.
     
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  12. DaleClark

    DaleClark Forum Resident

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    Hamburg tapes
     
  13. mpayan

    mpayan A Tad Rolled Off

    Once again, even if you are correct, rudeness never really supports a point very well.

    There is snobbishness in just about every hobby.

    There are audiophiles that certainly seem to fit into the snobbish category. Probably more a personality defect than audiophile centric. Jazz seems to attract the more snobbish types at times. Kind of a known thing. But one cant say all jazz fans are snobs.

    I try and steer clear of the snobs. But being rude isnt any better.

    Sell our audiophile vinyl for what reason?

    It still sounds the same as it ever has when we bragged on the sound of many of the Mofi's.

    Try the tactful suit on, its on sale. In fact, its free.
     
  14. heartbroken_poet

    heartbroken_poet Forum Resident

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    The infatuation some people have with the Abraxas One (Million) Step(s) IS related to the liberal (may I say abusive) use of high and low frequency EQ for people with presbycusis and tinnitus. The EQ and tone curve of the Mofi, when compared to the US original pressing 1D, is drastically different. And the fascination with the "never heard before sounds" and the "super low noise floor" is only the result of heavily EQed and heavily filtered tracks from digital files.
     
  15. NettleBed

    NettleBed Forum Transient

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    A 15th copy of Abraxas has been added to Discogs: a NM/VG+ copy for 1999EUR.
     
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  16. Uglyversal

    Uglyversal Forum Resident

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    Emails have been posted a few times stating there was no digital step. You have been posting for a while on this thread, is it possible you've missed those posts?
     
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  17. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    Yes, in the email response that was posted in the thread MoFi said that they don't use digital masters unless it was recorded digitally to begin with. There's really no other way to interpret that than to say that if they One Step a title that was originally a digital recording, the master used will be digital.
     
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  18. mikedifr0923

    mikedifr0923 Forum Resident

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    Not sure what you mean. I was speaking specifically to the Clapton One Step, or any of the ones we knew were digital recordings.
     
  19. Night Version

    Night Version Forum Resident

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    which is same for most of this “audiophile” gear targeting old men with hearing loss
     
  20. mikedifr0923

    mikedifr0923 Forum Resident

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    Got it. Thanks. I haven’t had a chance to read through that. I have seen it referenced several times but may have been from before I joined the thread
     
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  21. heartbroken_poet

    heartbroken_poet Forum Resident

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    the MOFI demographics :p
     
  22. Uglyversal

    Uglyversal Forum Resident

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    In that case please forget it the post I quoted made no specific mention -I think- of the Clapton record so I thought it was a general question regarding most issues. In regard of Clapton I've only read a few people were more underwhelmed by it than the ones that were happy. So far I have not seen any verifiable info about how it was recorded.
     
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  23. mikedifr0923

    mikedifr0923 Forum Resident

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    No prob at all. You’re right, mine didn’t. The posts I replied to were discussing Clapton. It’s widely known it’s a digital recording and someone earlier posted a link to a thread from when the one-step came out
     
  24. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Independent Head

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    I’m quite sympathetic to this argument, although I’d drastically dial back the long-distance ageist medical diagnoses and invective quotient quite a bit.

    The “liberal use of EQ” and mastering audiophilization that MoFi deploys so skillfully is what I tend to think of when people stubbornly insist (even in the post DSD-revelation world we now live in) that their MFSLs are the best these releases have ever sounded, and that MoFi magic is bringing you close to the authenticity of the master (just not quite as close as it used to be). There’s a thin line between objectively the best close-to-the-original-master sound quality and these are the sonic flavors and mastering moves that audiophiles with high-end gear swoon over.
     
  25. Shpongle

    Shpongle Forum Resident

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    Yes indeed…there are always exceptions. Son of a friend of mine came round and I played him some vinyl. He went straight out and bought a Rega 2 the following day along with some B&W speakers and an amp. I think he’s in the minority though. When I see young people sharing a pair of Apple ear buds to listen to music on their phones it tells me all I need to know about how music is consumed by the majority of teenagers.
     

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