The Kinks - Album by Album (song by song)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, Apr 4, 2021.

  1. TeddyB

    TeddyB Senior Member

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    Tricksy Ray. Sometimes outfoxing even himself…

    I like Creatures of Little Faith. If it’s so that one of them is guilty, I like it less. See, I’m unpredictable. l highly rate Art Lover, with its twist, but here I just wouldn’t get the point, except maybe to say that we are untrusting for good reason?

    Anyway, back to the music. It’s a pretty song. The sax adds nothing but I don’t have the allergy to sax that some around here seem to possess. (have at it @All Down The Line I’ve given you gold!). At some point Ray’s arrangement craft may have grown to the point where it’s hurting some songs. I’ve noticed on the other hand that his remixes of old material recently has tended toward the direct and straight-ahead

    A pretty good album so far.
     
  2. Fortuleo

    Fortuleo Used to be a Forum Resident

    Oh wow, yes ! It took me a full day to process this (I read your post yesterday morning and thought "yeah, maybe"), but now I hear it crystal clear. It has that Beware of Darkness quality… And the key change towards the bridge also brings that song to mind. The sax and lounge vibe are more like something from Extra Texture, though. But hey, coming from me, it's still a serious compliment.

    This song's the biggest revelation for me so far on the record. If I needed one full day to process the above observation, it took me the best of seventeen years to fully process this tune. What can I say, I'm slow… I agree that the "creatures" move really elevates the song. It allows the term "faith" to resonate in all its tongue in cheek double meaning glory. Only Ray Davies could bring a "pants down" lyrics to an (almost) metaphysical level.
     
  3. CheshireCat

    CheshireCat Forum Resident

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    I'm wondering if we ought to consider some key TV programmes? The 2003 Documentary 'The World From My Window', and more importantly the two TV Documentary films from Julien Temple - 2010 Ray Davies 'Imaginary Man' and 2011 Dave Davies 'Kinkdom Come'.
     
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  4. ajsmith

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    Yes! I think they've all already been posted on the thread but I think they deserve to be re-considered at the appropriate point in the timeline. We're already a couple of years on from 'World From My Window' but it essentially documents the OPL era (most of it was recorded in 2002-3 anyway) so is still era appropriate. Maybe slot it in this Sunday?
     
  5. CheshireCat

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    I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but there is this excellent US TV show 'Austin City Limits' from around the time of 'Other People's Lives'.
    Here's 'After The Fall'

    There's a lovely version of 'A Long Way From Home' in the show too.

    EDIT: I see @Michael Streett has mentioned this one. Certainly worthy of a consideration from the team!
     
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  6. CheshireCat

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    And 'Next Door Neighbour'.
     
  7. CheshireCat

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    Another for perhaps a Sunday, or a slot at the end of this album, this BBC radio concert from 2006 'Sold On Song'

    Set List :
    1. Dead End Street
    2. 20th Century Man
    3. Village Green
    4. Picture Book
    5. Big Sky
    6. Do You remember Walter?
    7. Sunny Afternoon
    8. I Go To Sleep
    9. All She Wrote
    10. Other People's Lives
    11. Muswell Hillbilly
    12. Oklahoma USA
    13. The Getaway (Lonesome train)
    14. After the Fall
    15. Harry Rag
     
  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Run Away From Time.

    stereo mix (3:47), recorded 23 Jan, 2003 (additional recording 6-9 Jul, 2004) at Konk Studios, Hornsey, London

    Hey, my friend
    You can't run away from time
    They say you can't fight fate
    Time won't wait
    You can't run away from time

    And time is the avenger
    But why should we just surrender to it?
    Why go through it?

    Run run run run run run run away
    Let's run away from time
    Run run run run run run run away

    Girl, you and me
    We've got to set ourselves free this time
    We must try to escape because it's never too late
    Liberation is ours to find

    Hey, hey let's run away
    Let's run away from time
    Hey, hey let's run away

    Hey, girl
    Let's run away from time
    We've still got mountains to climb
    A day at a time
    It's never too late, so why should we wait?

    Take me
    Save me
    Maybe, baby
    Run run run away
    Run run run away
    Run run run away

    The world is too obsessed by the continual quest
    For the fountain of youth they will never find
    And time is the avenger
    But why should we just surrender to it?
    Why go through it?

    Run run run run run run run away
    Let's run away from time
    Run run run run run run run away
    Run run run away
    Run run run away

    Run run run away
    Run run run away

    Written by: Ray Davies
    Published by: Davray Music, Ltd.

    All in all, this may be the weakest song on the album for me, but it is still a cool little track.
    It has a sort of Motown(ish) kind of sound and feel, and that's rarely a bad thing.

    I think in some ways the lyric here is a bit lighter... Certainly to some degree the topic could be seen as heavier for some, but it's done in a light way.

    We start off singing about the fact that you can't run away from time, and then for the rest of the song, we're trying to run away from time lol
    and that's probably a pretty reasonable picture of our realities, on many levels. We know something isn't possible, or at the very least, likely, yet we pursue and strive and try anyhow.

    I like the tip of the hat to Chrissie Hynde via Time The Avenger... a neat little touch.

    Then Ray puts forth the notion of why should we just surrender to it?
    Then we are urged to run away from time.

    Ray then says "Girl ... we've got to set ourselves free this time"
    and in my mind this creates a beautiful irony.. contradiction ... contradictory irony? lol
    We have to escape, we need to liberate ourselves.

    "Let's run away from time
    We've still got mountains to climb
    A day at a time
    It's never too late, so why should we wait?"
    Ray does it again here.
    Lets run away from time... and then hugely funny to me
    - A Day at a Time
    - It's never too late, so why should we wait.
    Four different words all directly related to time, spaced as if intentionally done so.

    "The world is too obsessed by the continual quest
    For the fountain of youth they will never find"
    This is something I completely agree with. By all means look after yourself, but don't waste your life, resources and energy trying to avoid the inevitable.

    So lyrically I see a few angles here
    A) Ray just slapped together some words to go with his cool little Motown style track
    B) Running away from time, is running away from worrying about it

    My train of thought was broken, and it took me a week to be able to get back to this, so I don't remember my other angles lol

    Anyway, I really like the music here... Like I say, it kind of makes me think of a modern variation of the Motown kind of sound.
    We have a nice organ base, with the rhythm section with a really nice smooth rhythm, even though it isn't generally a straight kind of beat.

    The bridge works as a nice change up.
    Then we get the "ooo" and lead guitar trading off, and that's pretty cool too.

    I think the chorus is very singable, and I reckon a lot of people could sing along with this chorus with a different context to the song. As humans we are normally running away from something, even if just ourselves.

    Anyway, I made a pig's ear out of that, but in spite of it possibly being one of the weaker tracks, I reckon this is a great track.

    I guess looking back reading this as I post it... weakest/ weaker tracks is not really a correct way of looking at it.... This is a great singable, fun song, but in comparison to many of the other songs, I think the lyrics are somewhat weaker

     
  9. CheshireCat

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    That'd make a really nice little live album...
     
  10. CheshireCat

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    Run Away From Time

    This one grew on me. I originally thought it was one of the weaker tracks, but now it's up there in the mix with most of the other tracks on the album. Perhaps I'm coming around to the view that there's too many similarly tempo'd songs on the album. Could be the first time in our deep-dive where an album is moving downwards in estimation for me.

    It's catchy enough with its 'run run run run runaway'. (or am I getting confused with Del Shannon...) It's in the right place on the album. It doesn't jump out, nor is it a letdown really. It has singalongability.

    This was never played on the tours I saw, so no idea why it was attempted on this 'Austin City Limits' Show, Ray struggles with it in my opinion here.
     
  11. Fortuleo

    Fortuleo Used to be a Forum Resident

    My first reaction (still influenced by @Rockford & Roll's Harrison comment copied above): the intro's almost exactly like This Song by George. Second reaction : well, This Song's intro directly quoted (intentionally, I'm sure…) I Can’t Help Myself by the Four Tops. So yeah, Motown, and it's the second time (after It's the Same Old Song in Lost and Found) that Ray's paid tribute to that beautiful band. Like George, he probably can't help himself… Third reaction : Del Shannon’s there too, as are many other run run run runaway singers, though I can't help but hearing shades of Karma Chameleon Culture clubbing, too. It’s not really a great song. More of an ok album track, sustaining the overall existential theme that seems to be the conceptual anchor of the whole thing.
     
  12. stewedandkeefed

    stewedandkeefed Came Ashore In The Dead Of The Night

    The studio versions posted for this album are coming up "unavailable in my country" so I usually just YouTube it but this time I had to use the aforementioned Austin City Limits (never knew Ray was on ACL) to hear this song. And based on that version, I really liked this song. Sounds like a good old rock n roll song on a universal theme by a still engaged master (In the clip it was clear how much Ray loves to perform). In the final monologue in Tennessee Williams' Sweet Bird Of Youth, the character Chance talks of "time - the enemy in us all" (Bob Dylan borrowed that in "Up To Me") and, to me,this is Ray's version of that huge theme. Of course, Chrissie Hynde wrote "Time The Avenger" (as @mark winstanley mentioned) around the time she and Ray were together and it is ultra cool to me that Ray throws that reference in there as well. I enjoyed this song and I may have to pick up this CD to hear the studio version of this song!
     
  13. ARL

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    "Run Away From Time"

    I think this is one of my favourites from the album - it's generally straightforward and uncomplicated, until it decides it's not (the bridge coming in from nowhere). Plus Ray sounds more like Ray than on much of what we've heard so far. I don't know whether the "set ourselves free" bit was meant to be a callback to to "Set Me Free", but either way it jumps off the page at you. I haven't studied the lyrics too closely but they slip past just fine on a track that works well as simple fun. (The Chrissie Hynde reference has gone over my head, so to speak, up to now!)
     
  14. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Oct 1963 - Nov 1966
    Starstruck promo video/ Days video/ Sunny Afternoon TOTP
    Apr 1967 - Feb 1970
    Nov 1970 - Jun 1976
    Feb 1977 - Dec 1983
    The Kinks Punk Christmas
    Artificial Light or. mix
    Life Goes On OGWT
    Morphing docu of Hotelroom sessions + interview Ray + live KinKs in Vienna 1978.
    One For The Road - the lost videos
    1981 A Woman In Love (chorus girls)
    Oh Tokyo live in 1982 - lyrics
    Jan 1984 - Dec 1993
    1994 - 2006.
    Quaife Holland 2004
    Kompilations 2005
    Americana (Hey Big Fat Cowboy) - live Jane Street
    Otis Riffs

    Feb 2006 Ray Davies - Other People's Lives
    Things Are Gonna Change (the Morning After) - Alt
    After The Fall
    Next Door Neighbour
    All She Wrote
    Creatures Of Little Faith
    Run Away From Time

    Austin City Linits
    After The Fall

    Next Door Neighbour
    Run Away From Time

    Sold On Song - live

    Mar 2006 Dave Davies - Kinked
    God In My Brain


    2006 Ray gets top honour at BMI awards

    2006 Dave - Too Much On My Mind

    2010 Come Dancing play

    Oct 2018 Dave Davies - Decade - interview
    If You Are Leaving (71)
    Cradle To The Grace (73)
    Midnight Sun (73)
    Mystic Woman (73)
    The Journey (73)
    Shadows (73)
    Web Of Time (75)
    Mr Moon (75) - Why
    Islands (78)
    Give You All My Love (78)
    Within Each Day (78)
    Same Old Blues (78)
    This Precious Time (78)

    2019 Kast Off Kinks with Ray

    2022 Muswell/ Showbiz box
    2022 Celluloid Heroes
    Acute Schizophrenia Paranoia Blues
    Travelling Montage
    Travelling With My Band - I'm Going Home - You Can't Stop The Music
    2022 remixes pt 1 - part 2 - part 3

    2022 Dave - Something Else - Josh Meyers Podcast

    2022 Dave Davies - 21st Century

    Creem articles - Mar 70
    - Mar 71
    - Feb 72
    - Nov 72
    - Aug 73
    - Apr 74
    - Jul 74
    - Aug 75
    - Feb 76
    - Aug 77
    - Apr 78
    - Aug 78
    - Oct 78
    - Jan 81
    - May 85
    - Apr 85
    - Apr 87
    - May 87
    - Jun 87
    - Jun 88

    Rare Silent Video

    Dave Interview 2022? newspaper

    Rob Kopp has made his 1999 Kinks discography 'Down All The days Till 1992'

    US Chart Stats
    The Music Industry Machine

    Album flow chart

    Album poll graph

    Mick Avory - Shut Up Frank -Lola - We Gotta Get Outta This Place
    Pete Quaife - interview - Kast Off Kinks - I Could See It In Your Eyes - Dead End Street
    Rasa Didzpetris Davies
    John Dalton
    John Gosling
    Jim Rodford
    Ian Gibbons
    Andy Pyle
    Gordon Edwards
    Clive Davis
    Bob Henrit

    Mark Haley - info
    Jakko Jaksyk
     
  15. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    I prefer Jagger to Evans!
     
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  16. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    Load up, load up, load up the ra ba bullets?
     
  17. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I don't want to look at Austin City Limits yet, because we have songs on the album we haven't gotten to yet, but if folks want to post them when the songs come up, that's fine, and then I'll organise on the Tuesday that we have Dave's Fractured Mindz, to wrap up the rest of Austin City Limits and get to Dave's album on the Wednesday
     
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  18. Steve62

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    Creatures of Little Faith
    I enjoyed this change of pace. It's a pleasant song with a serious theme. Ray says "it's probably sung by the guy who received the letter in All She Wrote. He's a low-down scoundrel and he knows it but still tries to come out with some semblance of dignity." Now that I know this I can put to the back of my mind Ray being unfaithful to Rasa and then accusing her of being too friendly with another man. Not cool.
    Runaway From Time
    Upbeat, catchy chorus, what's not to like? Well, the lyrics are so generic they could have been written in five minutes. Still, they convey a good message - don't surrender to time. Or, as Dylan Thomas more eloquently put it:
    Do not go gentle into that good night,
    Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    When I heard the run, run, run chorus I immediately thought of the Velvet Underground's Run Run Run (funnily enough...) which are the same words sung differently. Ray says (liner notes again) that he really loved singing that chorus "and even though they might not seem the most original words, that's not what matters. The secret is in believing that no one has quite sung them that way before." That's a pretty good get out of jail card. Not a bad song either.
     
  19. All Down The Line

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  20. Steve62

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    The singer in that Austin City Limits screenshot was Ray's then girlfriend. I haven't seen a komplete list of his WAGS but the incomplete list suggests Ray's faith has alternated between little and lots over the years.
     
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  21. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    I can't fairly speak of your claims of other Avids allergies to Sax though something happened to me yesterday in a main street that set mine off.
    No it was not the sight of an intimidating beauty entering my personal space nor the sight of one that looked ugly but a Salvation Army Marching Band!
    Anyone know of a counsellor in our streett?
     
  22. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I like a good sax ( awaits smartass reply)
     
  23. CheshireCat

    CheshireCat Forum Resident

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    OK. I only posted the songs we've covered, but I'll leave it.
     
  24. Zeki

    Zeki Forum Resident

    ‘Runaway From Time’: My initial thought (in my notes!) was “straight ahead filler” but I am kind of enjoying it as I listen now.

    Ray does a bit of his Caribbean accent, just a touch, and, as noted by many, there’s a Motown sound, as well. Especially in the beginning.

    The weak point is the “but why should we surrender to it”, early in the song; just something that doesn’t quite work.
     
  25. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    It's no issue, we've been posting live versions of tracks we're looking at since the start of the thread... I'm not messed up about it at all:righton:
     

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