Sinatra / Capitol Sound Quality and General Discussion: Come Fly with Me (recorded 1957)*

It's really a USA CD. The currently-available British issue is identical (and has the same 1987 date). The right channel overload is in the original stereo (3-track) session tapes. It cannot be eliminated and is present in ALL stereo mixes of this album, including the original LP and the '98 Norberg CD. The '87 Walsh mix is the best of the three.

[Sorry, Greg. Overlapping replies. ]

 

Thanks all...... that certainly answers my question as I was confused about the discussions on the 1987 Larry Walsh disc as people were favoring that issue and I wondered if I had the wrong version and now I know that the distortion is on the master tape and all stereo CD's I'll just have to wait for the mono version it seems.

 

I have a turntable Steve and I'm going to look for a mono album to master myself and make a CD for my own use I think thats the way to go.

 

If I recall correctly, Capitol made a 180gr vinyl reissue in 2009 of this album. They accidentally released the mono version, although all the packaging says stereo. So you might be able to find that version. They later recalled the album due to this, so maybe it is even harder to find than the original.

 

Thanks for the tip.. I realize that I have to look for a mono with 'The Road To Mandaley' on it

 

The problem with buying the 180gram 2009 pressing is as you say a problem because not all have the mono cut inside .....and I won't know unless I can hear it first....isn't life complicated.

 

It sure is in the Sinatra world!!

 

BEST COMMENT YET! I've got a mono LP and I ain't complainin'.

 

Not really, that 2009 re-issue with the stereo cover and mono LP inside is readily available on many internet sites and quite often seen at Amoeba Hollywood.

 

They're still selling it at Sinatra.com. Did Capitol ever change either the artwork or the record?

 

I'm starting to think that here in the UK in 1987 a different mastering was used from the UK and packaged in sleeves with a Larry Walsh credit, my reasons are this ......the flute distortion is so bad on 'Around The World' that I'm surprised there have not been more complaints from the general public, I also have the Norberg mastered disc which is not perfect but does not have the flute distortion, so I'm starting to think that I don't have the Walsh CD which you guys seem to favour above everything, so my plan now is to find a US disc mastered by Walsh.

 

It wouldn't be the first time. The UK EMI/MFP CD for SWING EASY! and SONGS FOR YOUNG LOVERS used the American (Walsh) liner notes, but it was a different mastering.

Can you post the track times for your CFWM, preferably the EXACT frame times as shown by a program like EAC (Exact Audio Copy)? If you have a PC and know how to use EAC, I can compare the extraction report to the one for the US disc.

 

Here you go Bob F :

01 00:00:00 03:22:30 Come Fly With Me
02 03:22:30 03:21:60 Around the World
03 06:44:15 02:30:62 Isle of Capri
04 09:15:02 03:34:40 Moonlight in Vermont
05 12:49:42 04:38:58 Autumn in New York
06 17:28:25 03:31:20 On the Road to Mandalay
07 20:59:45 02:11:57 Let's Get Away From it All
08 23:11:27 02:52:30 April in Paris
09 26:03:57 03:33:43 London by Night
10 29:37:25 03:04:22 Brazil
11 32:41:47 02:45:08 Blue Hawaii
12 35:26:55 03:53:57 It's Nice to Go Trav'ling
13 39:20:37 02:13:63 Chicago
14 41:34:25 02:51:70 South of the Border
15 44:26:20 01:50:30 I Love Paris

 

That is exactly the same as the US Walsh CD. It must be the same disc: Matches to the millisecond for all tracks cannot be coincidental.

 

OK no it can't be coincidental, so I have the Larry Walsh disc then, with the right channel distortion, what is strange is that the Norberg disc is fairly clean so he must have used a program to remove the distortion as I believe he did a re-mix because his version has more vocal reverb. Thanks for checking this out for me.

 

Yep, it's the Larry Walsh disc. Another clincher is the long fadeout on "Brazil" (track 10). I think you'll see it's nearly nine seconds longer than on the Norberg CD. Happy to have been of help.

 

I believe it's a totally new remix. Heavy dose of extra reverb.

 

September 1998

 

Like all the other Norberg Capitol titles. If you go to get it, it's the currently available CD, with the "Entertainer of the Century" legend along the left front spine.

 

Steve, I don't remember the Norberg being a new mix. Heavily processed, including that weird fake stereo widening even though it's in stereo. I have to compare again to an old pressing though - it's been a while...