Classical Corner Classical Music Corner (thread #27)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Jul 13, 2011.

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  1. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    NYC
    This thread (and the 26 that have preceded it) is for all things that relate to Classical Music. Feel free to post what you're listening to, recordings you recommend, recent classical purchases, classical concerts, discuss classical works, classical composers, etc.

    Also, beginners are especially welcome. Feel free to post any questions that you may have about classical music and/or classical recordings. This includes requests for recommendations for recordings of particular works/composers, etc. We have lots of friendly and knowledgeable members who will be glad to help you out.

    And as always, I would like to offer my sincere gratitude to all of the regulars (you know who you are) that have made this such and enjoyable and informative experience thus far! You guys are the best!

    :wave:

    http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=253924&page=50
     
  2. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    First post :goodie:
     
  3. wolfram

    wolfram Slave to the rhythm

    Location:
    Berlin, Germany
    Dang! :realmad:
     
  4. John S

    John S Forum Resident

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Last night ...

    Ligeti
    String Quartets and Duets

    Arditti String Quartet

    Holy Moly Batman! Ligeti's String Quartet No. 1 "Metamorphoses nocturnes" (1953-1954) is a masterpiece. I was going to describe it as atonal Beethoven, but that doesn't quite get it. Late Shostakovich in a parallel universe? Or how about Bartok turned up to eleven? Great stuff -- the rest of the album is extremely interesting. Thanks George for the recommendation.
     

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  5. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    NYC
    My pleasure! Glad you enjoy it as much as me. Their Schoenberg is great too!
     
  6. Growl

    Growl Member

    Location:
    South of France
    I have Haydn's Sturm Und Drang symphonies by Trevor Pinnock. It's great music. I'm searching for a good set of London Symphonies played on period instruments, if you have a clue...

    I've got Schubert's Unfinished Symphony on the Furtwangler box. Listened to that just once, I must go deeper, I know, but I'm on Verdi/Puccini/Mozart these days.
     
  7. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

    Location:
    NYC
    Actually, the first time I heard the Ligeti was in concert, together with the Grosse Fugue and a Bartok Quartet (and ending with Beethoven's Op. 135).
     
  8. Tangledupinblue

    Tangledupinblue Forum Resident

    Location:
    London, UK
    Ligeti is probably my favourite composer of the latter half of the last century, his ear for sensuous original sounds was unparalleled during his time and just as innovative and influential in his era as Debussy was in the late 19th/early 20th century as Messiaen was in the middle two quarters.

    I'm not sure though if I'd describe Ligeti's music as "atonal", though I'm not convinced "tonal" would fit it either - his music is certainly easier on the ear than most of the Viennese atonal/serial stuff never mind the ultra-inaccessible stuff from much of the 1950s/60s avant-garde.
     
  9. OE3

    OE3 Senior Member

    Taking the girlfriend to her first classical music concert (we've been to a few operas) at the end of the month at Hollywood Bowl. Vassily Petrenko will conduct the LA Philharmonic in Glinka's Overture to Ruslan and Ludmilla, the Sibelius Violin Concerto (concertmaster Martin Chalifour, soloist) and Dvorak Symphony No. 9. I think that's about as good a first concert program as it gets.

    Warming up with a spin of one of my choice scores of the last few years: Camilla Wicks's awesome early 50's Sibelius VC.
     

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  10. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    An awesome piece of vinyl and performance. I had it many moons ago and had to retire it due to skips. :cheers:
     
  11. Edgard Varese

    Edgard Varese Royale with Cheese

    Location:
    Te Wai Pounamu
    Picked this up yesterday (Hybrid SACD):

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    Only about halfway through thus far but very much enjoying both the performance and the excellent SACD sound.
     
  12. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    Great sonics..not my favorite performances but still a great disc worth owning. :cheers:
     
  13. John S

    John S Forum Resident

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Tonight ...

    Mozart
    Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. [size=+3]27[/size] in B-flat, KV 595

    Emil Gilels, piano
    Wiener Philharmoniker
    Karl Böhm
     

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  14. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    The best 27th on record IMO.
     
  15. John S

    John S Forum Resident

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    What great programming...:thumbsup:

    I suppose they had to end the concert on a lighter note :)
     
  16. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    Now playing the following CD, which arrived today for a first listen ...

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  17. John S

    John S Forum Resident

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Tonight...

    Schoenberg
    Suite, Op. 29

    for 2 clarinets, bass clarinet, violin, viola, cello and piano
    Verklärte Nacht, Op. 4
    string sextet for 2 violins, 2 violas and 2 cellos
    3 pieces for Chamber Orchestra

    Members of the Ensemble InterContemporain
    Pierre Boulez
     

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  18. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    Now playing CD3 - PC Nos. 26 & 27 from the following set for a first listen ...

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  19. Jay F

    Jay F New Member

    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I like his Mozart PCs.
     
  20. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

    Location:
    Fresno, California
    I knew I had reached some radical level of improvement in the sound quality of my playback gear when I played the first movement of the DGG Bernstein/NYPO recording of Mahler's Resurrection symphony yesterday:

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    . . . and the sound was fabulous, all the brass keening without a trace of congestion, all orchestral sections imaging in specific spaces, a vivid capture of a vivid performance. Now I'm torn between all of Bernstein's commercial recordings of Mahler's Resurrection.
     
  21. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Good luck with the concert, Petrenko is great.
    Also very rare disc that Sibelius, I 've been trying to get a copy for a while now but when it shows up I am always outbidden.
     
  22. John S

    John S Forum Resident

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Mahler
    Symphony No. 2 in C minor "Resurrection"

    Gertrud Bindernagel, soprano
    Emmi Leisner, alto
    Berliner Staatskapelle
    Oskar Fried
    (recorded 1924)
    CD3 and CD4

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    This is the famous acoustical recording of the second, conducted by a man who knew Mahler, who invited Fried to conduct the "Resurrection" in concert. This recording was just 13 years after Mahler’s death when he was still seen as a radical modernist. By that time Fried was considered a specialist on this symphony, so this is an enormously important historical document.

    The huge technical difficulties involved with acoustically recording a symphony this grand should not be underestimated. These technical demands account for most of the strange things one hears here, such as what sounds like hand clapping for the rute, and what sounds like a trolley car bell being substituted for the triangle. The crash cymbals sound more like a starter pistol. The organ is MIA. Surprisingly the harp is clearly audible.

    Generally speaking, the tempos are brisk and the playing seems clipped. What is most surprising is the wayward intonation problems, and sloppy ensemble cohesion. A good part of the problem here must be attributed to the recording conditions, which of course were far different than the normal concert stage. On the other hand, if this is an example of typical top level orchestral playing, then we’ve come a long way since. For me the high point is alto Emmi Leisner, whose deep German "frau" sound is perfect for this part.

    I don’t know how this release differs from Ward Marston’s master of this recording for Naxos. This disc’s sound is very noisy and distant. Picture yourself standing next to a steam locomotive that’s constantly releasing steam from its overload valve, while you’re listening to this music on your iPhone.
     
  23. John S

    John S Forum Resident

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Also this morning ...

    Sibelius
    Finlandia, Op. 26
    The Swan of Tuonela, Op. 22 No. 2
    Valse triste, Op. 44
    Tapiola, Op. 112

    Berliner Philharmoniker
    Herbert von Karajan
    (1984)
     

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  24. Soundproof

    Soundproof Member

    Location:
    Oslo
    Nice morning at the local record store. Occasionally, a box or two of new additions appear in the classical section, and today I was fortunate to find one I've been looking for:

    Sir Malcom Sargent - London Symphony Orchestra
    Everest LPBR 6053 (Mono)
    Moussorgsky Pictures & Night on Bald Mountain

    Record in NM condition! The inner sleeve with a fine plug of the 35mm recording setup that Everest was using during the Belock years. I have the stereo original, but have wanted the mono, and there it was. The mono record lacks the STEREO legend at the top of the front cover, but is otherwise identical.

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  25. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

    Location:
    Sunshine State
    Hey Soundproof, can you post a picture of the label when/if you get a chance?
    I am always confused with Everest, their different labels drive me crazy.
     
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