There was an EMI Albert made in Japan for Australia. Quite a rare CD that I used to own and foolishly sold for a few dollars many years ago. I'm not sure that there was a Sony made in Japan for Australia, but I could be wrong. I think that the EMI Albert made in Japan for Australia was a unique mastering. Perhaps done in Japan?
They are EMI Albert, Rick and they are different than the Disctronic or Sony Albert discs. At least I have never seen a Sony Albert made in Japan, that would be a new one. The AC/DC Ultimate discography site does not list it. http://www.acdc-discography.com/d91.html
I compared it to the second press and prefered the first. Like I said, my findings, if you don't agree fine. Also I wanted to like the second more because I would of sold the first if I did. seems you do
Hi, I want to know if the Sony made Australia for Australia Albert catalog 465254 2 - pictured here - is the same mastering as the Japan for Australia Albert
No they are different. Sony Track 1 Peak level 78.7 % Extraction speed 14.6 X Test CRC 689BA82B Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [C7FA87A9] (AR v1) Copy finished Track 2 Peak level 92.9 % Extraction speed 20.7 X Test CRC 8A18C526 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [BCA9088D] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 3 Peak level 97.9 % Extraction speed 22.6 X Test CRC 5832C2CB Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [FAE90276] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 4 Peak level 97.3 % Extraction speed 24.0 X Test CRC BA2243E7 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [57A663C8] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 5 Peak level 79.7 % Extraction speed 25.4 X Test CRC 023565F7 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [1E9B2A0E] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 6 Peak level 94.6 % Extraction speed 26.9 X Test CRC AF1E2ABB Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [FC21BCCE] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 7 Peak level 96.5 % Extraction speed 28.2 X Test CRC 85AC16F8 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [46C494BA] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 8 Peak level 100.0 % Extraction speed 29.4 X Test CRC BBB9AE1B Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [FEB4082D] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 9 Peak level 94.8 % Extraction speed 30.6 X Test CRC A2437FE3 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [727A7988] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 10 Peak level 93.6 % Extraction speed 31.8 X Test CRC 8B07D09B Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [902A329A] (AR v1) Copy OK Japan EMI Track 1 Peak level 70.1 % Extraction speed 15.0 X Test CRC 6F2E2AA2 Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [56C17B2F] (AR v1) Copy finished Track 2 Peak level 82.8 % Extraction speed 21.3 X Test CRC 4DEC464B Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [174E7E06] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 3 Peak level 87.3 % Extraction speed 23.2 X Test CRC 705447AF Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [388B2945] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 4 Peak level 86.7 % Extraction speed 24.4 X Test CRC 11EA6AB5 Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [C8E13A8A] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 5 Peak level 71.0 % Extraction speed 26.1 X Test CRC 754A3CD8 Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [2EB688C7] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 6 Peak level 84.3 % Extraction speed 27.6 X Test CRC 2EB9200E Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [0DB2E798] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 7 Peak level 86.0 % Extraction speed 28.9 X Test CRC F9B5A165 Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [0E2E4E0C] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 8 Peak level 92.4 % Extraction speed 30.1 X Test CRC 0874ABF2 Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [85D60946] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 9 Peak level 86.5 % Extraction speed 31.3 X Test CRC 440CFDE2 Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [67BE2A08] (AR v1) Copy OK Track 10 Peak level 85.4 % Extraction speed 32.6 X Test CRC C316471E Accurately ripped (confidence 5) [687E03B1] (AR v1) Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
Thank You Barry, that will aid in my search. Interesting that the Sony version is lower in peak level.
In my opinion, look no further than this: That is the Barry Diament disc. One of the best sounding CDs, as far as I know.
The EMI Japan is lower Rick, the Sony has the higher numbers. For a second I thought I had mixed them up.
Based solely on the picture of the cover, it is not. I don't have the disc in front of me, so it may be a case of using any old picture, but the Diament version has a cover like in the picture I posted. If it doesn't look like that, it is not a Diament.
Great! I know its a German 1986 release. Knowing my luck its going to be the poor German mastering that somebody mentioned on here. There is a 1987 German issue too. I thought all pre 1994's were Diament masterings or is that only the Atlantic USA CD's?
When you say "identical mastering on all non remastered" do you mean all USA issue CDs? I ordered a 1986 German issue but im unsure as to if it has the Diament mastering.
I'm not familiar with the 1986 German edition... do you mean the West German pressing? If so, that is indeed a Diament mastering.
This is the one i have on order, hopefully it is the Diament, it does say Atlantic – 16018-2 aswell as 2 other catalogue numbers. Thats even if the seller has listed it correctly and its not a 1994/2003 remaster! It does'nt differentiate between East/West Germany tho! http://www.discogs.com/release/411445
I looked at the other scans posted, and based on that, I think you're safe. I'd be curious when you get it to see if the booklet cover is actually the one that's posted on the website, or the one in the picture I posted in this thread. Also, if when you get it you could post EAC levels, it would help to determine what you have, but like I said, I believe you have a Barry Diament mastered version coming.
Thanks for the link. The West German pressing has a solid aluminum hub to the center and states "Made in West Germany by Polygram" along the bottom. I've not heard the particular pressing which you provided in that link. Here's the link to the West German pressing on Discogs: http://www.discogs.com/ACDC-Back-In-Black/release/2776449
That brings up a good question,how much different sounding are the 1989 Dictronics and Sony Albert Back In Black cds from the first EMI Japan for Australia Albert? I`m perfectly fine with the original Atlantic cd though.
CD came this morning. It has the "Was recorded with analog equipment" blurb on the rear. Catalogue numbers on CD are- 16018-2 7567-81472-2 The cover has AC/DC in outline type instead of the solid white of the CD pictured in this thread and the CD does not have any red colour, just plain black text. Is it safe to say this is a Diament mastering people?
Don't want to rain on anyone's parade but the German BIB 7567-81472-2 may not be Barry's mastering according to this thread ........ post #33 http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=280643&page=2&highlight=back+black
Listening to it, it sounds a lot like a FLAC rip i downloaded of the Diament before i tried to purchase one.
I can't comment either way as I've never heard the disc in question, I just remembered I'd recently read about it there. But hey, if you like the sound of it, that's what counts. I like the Ted Jensen remaster and it doesn't get much support here either.
Hi Panthers26, On leave from this forum but back this once to clarify, hopefully once and for all: The idea of a flat transfer is something I used to think was desirable. Then I became an engineer and started hearing what masters actually sound like. Short and sweet: Flat transfers are great and appropriate about 1% of the time. The rest of the time, EQ helps. When you consider how most recordings, especially pop recordings are made, what is used for monitoring, etc., etc., it is a wonder one can still hear the music at all. So, forget "flat transfers". If the original recording wasn't great - and most are far, far, far from great, a flat transfer will never get the best from it. None of the AC/DC or Zep CDs I did were flat transfers. All benefited from EQ. I probably didn't apply enough back then. If I did them again today, there would be more EQ. As I said, 99% of the masters I've heard will benefit from judiciously applied EQ. The 1% is wonderful but only comes around 1% of the time. (Soundkeeper Recordings are flat transfers. Much -but not all- of Enya's "Watermark" was too.) Best regards, Barry www.soundkeeperrecordings.com www.barrydiamentaudio.com
