Classical Corner Classical Music Corner (thread #51)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, Nov 3, 2013.

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  1. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Ironically, I am considering going multichannel so I can better enjoy the hundreds of 5.1 surround SACD titles in my collection. Since I have a number of spare amps, 3 extra speakers and the preamp/processor are all I need to add.
     
  2. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    This decline has been going on for at least a decade. It appears it is not only limited to classical music, though the latter probably experiences the steepest decline of all genres ...
     
  3. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    My first recording of the work and an "Open sesame" to classical music back in the spring of 1968. The orchestra is sloppy, the performance is dark and menacing. Argenta with the Paris Conservatoire Orchestra on Decca [mine's on STS] is nearly a Historically Informed performance, with strange sounding "French Brass" and curt phrasing. Munch with Boston is wonderfully well recorded and very crisp and forward pressing—it's in the RCA Living Stereo SACD series, grab it while you can. And Ormandy/Philadelphia is beautifully played and well recorded. All older versions, all have something in the playing that is now lost as the sound of orchestras becomes more consistent and less regional over time.
     
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  4. Bronth

    Bronth Active Member

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    At first I read the title as "Kaspersky"... and that racket almost proved me right, so I double-checked if it's not a software forum. What does it sound like?
     
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  5. Scott Wheeler

    Scott Wheeler Forum Resident

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    I think Argenta might be my all time favorite conductor.
     
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  6. EasterEverywhere

    EasterEverywhere Forum Resident

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    That is one of the few 60s Red Seals I never saw.
     
  7. EasterEverywhere

    EasterEverywhere Forum Resident

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    [​IMG]

    The Mitropoulos Transfigured Night came out in stereo,too.It turns up quite a bit.
     
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  8. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Any relation between this Argenta and the soprano Nancy Argenta?
     
  9. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    This is a must have for this work.
     
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  10. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    No relation as far as I know. I don't knwo If Argenta, the conductor, had any children. He died prematurily from carbon monoxide poisoning. It was a very "stupid" death.
     
  11. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    This LP is next on my list of future purchases.
     
  12. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    Curious - I don't stream movies, but are they streamed in surround?
     
  13. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    Spotify and MOG both claim 320 kbps for their premium service. Acceptable to me in many instances.
     
  14. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    I haven't seen this one before. The last recording of the Symphonie Fantastique that I listened to was this:

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    This is with period instruments, it is definitely very interesting to hear but did not do much for me.
     
  15. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    Just finished enjoying Munch's Harold in Italy also available on SACD. As I've mentioned before, the appeal of Symphonie Fantastique eluded me for quite a while. The performance that really grabbed me Paray on MLP.

    Also listened to the Rubinstein/Toscanini Beethoven 3rd.
     
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  16. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    That technology may become available in 2025 ... :D
     
  17. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    Agreed, the regional character of the classical orchestras is mostly a thing of the past nowadays.
     
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  18. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    I'm not sure you even need a processor. As I understand it (from another thread), you plan to use the Oppo 105's DAC and send an analog signal to the pre-amp. I believe (and someone here please correct me if I'm wrong) if you do the processing in the preamp/processor the preamp will convert the signal back to digital processing and then reconverting back to analog. The Oppo can do the processing before the DAC.

    I know from other threads that a lot of multi-channel preamps convert to digital in all events, but I think I've seen mention of some that offer pure analog.
     
  19. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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  20. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    My top five of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique (no ranking):

    1) Pierre Monteux - San Francisco SO 1945
    2) Leonard Bernstein - NYP 1963
    3) D. Mitropoulos - NYP 1957
    4) Colin Davis - LSO 2000
    5) Eduard van Beinum - Concertgebouw 1951
     
  21. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    No love for Gardiner? I have only heard his and Norrington's, but I like the former quite a bit more.
     
  22. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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  23. john greenwood

    john greenwood Senior Member

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    It's not a feature I use, but the Oppo can stream from Netflix and other services. There's even a Netflix button on the remote. I think they were trying to get a deal with Amazon. My $100 Sony Blu-Ray can stream from a wide variety of services.
     
  24. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Amazon definitely wants to preempt Apple in the contents business. Hey, I don't even have an iPod and will never get one anyway.
     
  25. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    On the contrary, I like Gardiner's version quite a lot. It was actually recorded at the same room where the premier took place and it is a very good HIP reading.
    The main reason that it is not in my top list is because I find that these HIP recordings no matter how good they sound are more like historical exercises or very interesting time travel trips. I prefer the conductor to put his inner personal soul into his interpretation and not being a mere musical historian.

    I know that many will disagree with this (Robin? :wave:) but that's just how I feel.
     
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