12AU7 tubes - recommendation

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Zokinjo, May 13, 2022.

  1. Classic Car Guy

    Classic Car Guy - Touch The Face Of God -

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    I remember 12au7 tubes being so cheap back 20 years ago and nobody wants to buy it. Now its like silver-gold.
     
  2. jcmusic

    jcmusic Forum Resident

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    Then you should stop thinking and start listening... LOL!!!
     
  3. vinylkid58

    vinylkid58 Forum Resident

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    I had the opposite experience in my old BH Foreplay. Same with Bugle Boys. Just goes to show it's really down to the specific equipment used.

    jeff
     
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  4. Steve Hoffman

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    Just remembered something. TUNGSRAM. Are they old East German or Hungary or something? The box (if I remember) was blue with red and the ECC82 (12AU7) was very nice sounding, used in my old Concert Fidelity preamp. In fact, the designer loved the tube so much he didn't want anything else in there.

    Tungsram. Didn't cost much but that was 20 years ago..
     
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  5. Steve Hoffman

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    Just looked, 30 bucks each now. Not bad for a vintage NOS tube made in Europe..


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  6. Classic Car Guy

    Classic Car Guy - Touch The Face Of God -

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    The tungsram and the old tung-sol with a charcoal grey bottle. Those were the holy grail of the 12au7 when it comes to hi fidelity and professional music.
     
  7. vinylkid58

    vinylkid58 Forum Resident

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    Was that the CF-080?

    jeff
     
  8. Steve Hoffman

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    Yes.. Still have it, still filled with Tungsram tubes.
     
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  9. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    I don't know what it is about Sylvania tubes. I had a pair of 7308 (aka 6DJ8 or 6922) Sylvania tubes and loved them in my Atma-sphere amps. I liked them so much I got a pair each of Sylvania 12AU7 and 6FQ7 to replace the rest of the amp's line driver stage. No...no...no...no...no. Steely bright. Run for the hills.

    I have found clear top RCA 12AU7 tubes are better than average sounding. To me they are the coin of the realm. I judge everything against them. You can commonly - meaning inexpensively - find RCA clear tops branded as Conn tubes. They were used in Conn organs. Even though tube prices have skyrocketed, I see the always reliable Brent Jessee has them in stock for $29.99, or matched pairs for $79.99. link
     
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  10. Steve Hoffman

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    In my old vintage system I used RCA Clear Top 12AU7's to get some false top end out of my old Tannoy Lancasters. The Clear Tops have an 8k bump that can make SOME systems play back brittle sounding. Others, perfect.

    It's always system dependant. I would recommened trying Tungsram over Clear Tops though. Or, buy two of each and see. It's fun rolling tubes, as long as you don't spend too much. It's addicting, that's for sure.
     
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  11. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    After you said you saw Tungsrams for $30, I went a-lookin'. I've never used Tungsrams. I couldn't find them for that price. Would you mind sharing the location of your fishing hole...err, tube source?
     
  12. Steve Hoffman

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  13. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    Thanks. For people who don't know, this is a good source for vintage tubes. I'll buy a matched pair for $79.
     
  14. Steve Hoffman

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    Let us know what you think.
     
  15. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    I will.

    12AU7 tubes are popcorn to me. Gobble it up by the handful. PrimaLuna amps use a lot of them. Off the top of my head, I have pairs of vintage Mullards, GE Jan 6189, Telefunken, Westinghouse, Pinnacle (could be Russian made but I think are Matsushita), CIFTE (French), Amperex, Sylvania and RCA, both regular and clear tops.
    After re-reading that list, I feel like an alcoholic, proud of his collection of empty whiskey bottles. [​IMG]
     
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  16. Steve Hoffman

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    Yeah, it’s like an addiction. In the 90’s when I got most of my stash they were mostly a few dollars each, all NOS. Hard to resist.

    Fun though.
     
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  17. FalseMetal666

    FalseMetal666 Forum Resident

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  18. Ilusndweller

    Ilusndweller S.H.M.F.=>Reely kewl.

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  19. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    As the old phrase goes, it's not showing off if you back it up.
     
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  20. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    I have two Baldwin tubes that are labeled 38 15 22 VFH .

    Can anybody verify that this is truly a 12AU7 tube and give us its manufacturer?
     
  21. Ilusndweller

    Ilusndweller S.H.M.F.=>Reely kewl.

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    When I tried to research the Baldwin I have(red print), I learned there are many variations/manufacturers of "Baldwin" 12AU7 . The ones I have say "Made in Japan" and "2B". Does anyone know anything about these? I gave up trying to figure it out.

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    My Baldwin tubes have green print and no other numbers or country of origin, if that matters.
     
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  23. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues

    They seem to be Toshiba like these. . . .

    Toshiba 12AU7 - long gray plates, organ stock
     
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  24. FalseMetal666

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  25. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues

    I believe that would be Matsushita tubes.
     
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