4 Men With Beards pressing quality

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by draden1, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Independent Head

    Location:
    New Mexico USA
    Part of my longstanding gripe with the label is their consistent lack of transparency. They just keep their heads down and don't respond to inquiries and criticism. In general, non-participants in the community of people who care about vinyl sound quality. So who knows? — except that the SQ of their releases makes you suspect the worst.
     
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  2. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

    Location:
    Midwest
    I picked up Maggot Brain, which isnt completely terrible...then I picked up First Step. Gave away the Faces, will never buy from them again.
     
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  3. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

    Location:
    Midwest
    To be fair, their First Step may have been mp3 sourced, sound was so bad.:hide:
     
  4. KDubATX

    KDubATX A Darby Man Never Says When

    Location:
    Austin
    I have a pressing they did of the first Hawkwind album. It is generally fine, but if it was sourced from a CD I would not be especially shocked. I would value that Hawkwind a bit more than my crappy Plain version of Mr Bungle California.
     
  5. draden1

    draden1 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Des Moines, IA
    Wow, that's a lot of feedback which settles it, I'm not picking them up. I enjoy this forum as I can throw out a question and get a lot of feedback, quickly.

    Saved me some money, thanks!
     
  6. Abbagold

    Abbagold Working class hero

    Location:
    Natchitoches, LA
    Got the Black Crowes Southern Musical on Plain label. One of the worst LPs I have in regards to quality and sound. The fingerprints on the vinyl seems to be pressed into the wax. They strive for bad quality. They press records as a joke on hipsters.
     
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  7. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

    Location:
    Midwest
    They are an Audiophail label.
     
  8. kozy814

    kozy814 Forum Resident

    I bought a Tim Buckley record, Goodbye and Hello. The cover was sumptuous, thick stock, nice inner sleeve. Nice label repro. It was a nice looking presentation. Until I placed the LP under a stylus. I was AMAZED at how bad the LP sounded. At first I thought maybe my controls got all futzed with on the receiver. The master took zero consideration into any of the decent sounding versions of this album on vinyl. It's almost like these people don't really understand that people play the records.
     
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  9. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    If you mean officially by them, no, they never admitted it to my knowledge, but a cursory examination of their pressings will usually reveal typical limitations and tell-tale signs from retail CD sources (if not MP3s!), some of them coming from badly brickwalled masterings or even bootleg copies.
     
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  10. correctodad

    correctodad Forum Resident

    I have 2 albums - Television by Television and River by Terry Reid.
    Both are nice flat, unmarked records and I have no problem at all with the quality of the audio.
    I'm now aware of all the bad press (I wasn't when I purchased those albums) and I would hesitate to pick up anything from them again but I have no complaints at all with my own purchases.
     
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  11. Sear

    Sear Dad rocker

    Location:
    Tarragona (Spain)
    My 4menwithbeards Saints' I'm stranded it's no big deal because it's a raw punk lo-fi recording in the first place..
     
  12. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

    Location:
    ‎The Midwest
  13. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

    Location:
    ATX
    I have that one and it just makes me sad. So many ticks and pops. I cleaned it at least 3 times but no dice.
     
  14. Linto

    Linto Mayor of Simpleton

    Italian Castle
     
  15. IbMePdErRoIoAmL

    IbMePdErRoIoAmL lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate

    Location:
    Miami Valley
    They're pretty damned awful. The only 4MWB I still own are the Bill Fay reissues because I don't have a couple grand layin' around for originals.
     
  16. Desolation Row

    Desolation Row Forum Resident

    Location:
    Oklahoma
    I have their reissue of John & Beverly Martyn's Stormbringer! and it actually sounds great. Then I bought their reissue of John Cale's Paris 1919. Just terrible. I was so upset. Never again.
     
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  17. BlueSpeedway

    BlueSpeedway Curated Iconic Half-Speed Picture Disc

    Location:
    England
    Had three, some years ago: two Bauhaus LPs, one La Düsseldorf LP.

    All terrible, really terrible sounding to me, like a cassette, or like you were playing a decent LP on one of those children’s record players or something.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. BlueSpeedway

    BlueSpeedway Curated Iconic Half-Speed Picture Disc

    Location:
    England
    There’s a German pressed UK reissue of Paris 1919 that is pretty common as it was in print via mid price WEA, until at least 1991. Not as good as a US original but thoroughly recommended to fans of the album on a budget :righton:
     
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  19. Piero

    Piero Forum Resident

    Location:
    Italy
    I have the "blow Up ","Lolita",Zabriskie Point" ost and Aretha Franklin"Live at Fillmore West" and all titles are acceptable ,certainly don't get excited,but they are not to throw away.
     
  20. Leepal

    Leepal Forum Resident

    Location:
    Swindon, UK
    I have one album from that label (Gravy Train - A Peaceful Man) and the sound quality is, to my ears anyway, really rather good.
    That is just one album though.

    4MWB I have avoided due to all the negative feedback.
     
  21. KDubATX

    KDubATX A Darby Man Never Says When

    Location:
    Austin
    I missed the Crosley Fonz RSD Deluxe Special Edition release !?! Darn my bad luck all to hell.
     
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  22. Sear

    Sear Dad rocker

    Location:
    Tarragona (Spain)
    The original La Düsseldorf LP's are cheap. Don't waste your money on the reissues
     
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  23. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    A friend bought the La Düsseldorf LP and one or two of the NEU! albums on 4MWB... he didn't know better.

    We listened to them and while the NEU! were pretty bad, the LD sounded terrible. It's almost like they purposefully sabotage the sound quality.
     
  24. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

    Location:
    Midwest
    That's the real problem with them, zero consistency with those 4 Men W/Beards.

    The fact that they have put out some really good sounding records means that they CAN make a decent product...but at least half the time, they choose to go ahead and put out an obviously inferior product.

    Maddening.
     
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  25. Glenpwood

    Glenpwood Hyperactive!

    The 4MWB Nina Simone pressings were shown in the recent film "Tyler Perry's Acrimony." First in an early scene by her future husband to hook Taraji P Henson's character on her voice. Later, when she throwing her man out of the house during a big dramatic scene, the main thing he wants to grab is his turntable and those Simone records. I remember saying out loud to my other half in the theatre, "Don't bother. Those pressings aren't worth it."
     

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