Because that's the original final resolution of the mastering. It's even clear from the spectrograms that these aren't upsampled, but converted from a DSD source. They are also sold at 24/96 and 16/44 if you prefer. I don't really understand what you are trying to convey.
No "musical" content goes up to 96k. Brass instruments and cymbals can have transients up to ~35k, but anything above would be synthetic sounds recorded digitally, which aren't contained AFAIK in these albums. If this is a "Hi-Res is useless" argument, we already had our share of that in this thread.
Right but there’s nothing in there going much beyond 20k. And this has zero to do with a gripe against hi-res - the only digital files I buy are hi-res files - but a gripe with putting this content in a 192 container (with a 192 price) when there’s no justification for doing so.
The justification is that the mastering engineers worked at that resolution. Whether it makes sense to buy them at that resolution is up to you. There are other resolutions available which are less expensive, hopefully.
A proper spectrogram from Apostrophe: Most of the "musical" content peters out towards ~27kHz and there are transients up to ~43kHz. Make of that what you will.
What is your take on the "bit probleme" discovered by Highresaudio.com on the 24/192 version of Studio Tan? As I wrote a few posts back the same problem is present in the 24/192 version of Joe's Garage and Apostrophe(') that I bought from HDTracks. Is the problem present in the version of Apostrophe(') in your spectrogram? The red colored fields? This is what my Apostrophe(') looks like in MusicScope: Pancake-HDtracks-24-192
Since my Pancake is good, from ProStudioMasters (picture page before) i could think that maybe the first batch of 24/192 not the 24/96 at HDtracks and HiResAudio (on facebook) had bits problems?
As I noted before in this thread, there is no bit problem in my copies of the downloads from Qobuz. Spectrograms are primarily for displaying graphically the frequency response, they won't tell you directly if there's missing bits in a 24bit container. The colors just indicate which frequencies are stronger: red = more, green = less, blue = none. It looks like your copy has only 17-18bits of resolution, but it could be a bug from MusicScope. If you can send me your file I will analyse it.
Thanks. It's no bug. I've replaced both albums and they now both look fine in MusicScope. Guess corrected files has been sent out to the vendors originally affected (HDTracks and Highresaudio it seems).
Shut up and play yer guitar 24/192 has arrived on Qobuz ! But I cannot see the three titles you're mentioning. (Not as a recent HD release anyway).
Interesting choices for the next 2 releases... Really hoping we can get the rest of the studio albums before we get too many of these posthumous albums and collections.
I thought 7th May was the final day of these releases, so where are 'Waka/Jawaka', 'The Grand Wazoo' and 'Fillmore East, June 1971'?
I honestly don't know where this limitation is supposed to take place. I just took a look at the track "Regyptian Strut" from the album "Sleep Dirt" in iZotope RX: It's the 16-44.1 version of the 2012 CD, compared to the 24/192 Hi-Res version. 24/192 version In the upper area, the aforementioned frequency noise cloud can be seen very well. There are also two gaps - is this perhaps the watermark? In the detailed picture you can see that the frequency range in the peaks clearly moves up to over 32 kHz and then mixes somewhere with the noise cloud. 16-44.1 version Here, somewhere at 22.2 kHz, the end of the line is reached. ----------------------------------------- 24/192 version Dropbox - 04 Regyptian Strut 24-192.jpg 24/192 version detail Dropbox - 04 Regyptian Strut 24-192 - Detail.jpg 16/44.1 version Dropbox - 04 Regyptian Strut 16-44.1.jpg 16/44.1 version detail Dropbox - 04 Regyptian Strut 16-44.1 - Detail.jpg
Or do you mean the dynamic range? Then the 24/192 version actually has a little less. 24/192 version RMS -14.4 dB / Peak -0.2 dB = 14.2 dB 16/44.1 version: RMS -14.3 dB / Peak -0.0 dB = 14.3 dB (Measured with SoundForge)
You have to search them. Iirc they list 3 different versions of each for some reason, the version that lists the 24 bit is rhe one you want.
(of course he meant the dynamic range) BTW I don't have the files in questions, but that doesn't look like more limiting, that seems like artifacts of resampling a 192k file with limiting, to 44k. The resampling will create peaks over the initial limit that give the illusion of more dynamic range and register as such. But the actual dynamic range is the same as one is just derived from the other.
I was browsing the 7digital Canada website, and I noticed other Zappa/Mothers titles that are listed as 24-bit FLAC, but the pages appear to be placeholders (all listed as being released in 2012, but there are no files, no samples, only listed as pdf with various prices). I guess it's the rest of the titles that will be released. Here they are: The Grand Wazoo Mothermania Fillmore East - June 1971 Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch The Lost Episodes Waka/Jawaka The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life Fransesco Zappa London Symphony Orchestra Vol. I & II
