A Lennonology Exclusive - For You Blues (Exclusive Content On The Japanese Let It Be SDE)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by MCE1965, Oct 20, 2021.

  1. MHP

    MHP Lover of Rock ‘n Roll

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    You pull hard on other people’s work.
    Then you criticize it to pieces.
    Often, even before you have heard the actual product in question.
    In 2019 you smashed the Abbey Road remix even before you had heard it. All based on unconfirmed info from the internet.
    Then it was revealed the Hi/Rez was uncompressed. You just said ‘thankfully’ and slipped under the radar again.
    Same as this: Would you even have noticed mix differences if it wasn’t for Mike Carrea’s excellent listening work? I bet it’s a no.
    But to sit and point fingers, is certainly a quality you have.
     
  2. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    Judging from past history, I doubt that Apple will acknowledge any error. In fact, I doubt that they will say anything.

    I'm still waiting for their explanation of where they found that scratchy version of the promo "Penny Lane" in the Pepper box. ;)
     
  3. hlennarz

    hlennarz Forum Resident

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    I don't think there was a version of the set with a better copy of that track though. Not even in japan with their snake-oil SHM-CD's, lol
     
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  4. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    And what about the guy who noticed that another guy noticed…..? ;-)
     
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  5. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    No. The same scratchy "Penny Lane" version was released everywhere. But Apple never mentioned where it came from. They just kept their lips tight.

    So I assume that they will forgo any mention at all about the "For You Blue" discrepancy.

    It will be interesting though if anyone can actually decipher how the issue with "For You Blue" occurred.
     
  6. marklamb

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    Universal should obviously bite the bullet here and issue a replacement disc to everyone who purchased the SDE with the wrong version.
     
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  7. hlennarz

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    Unfortunately
     
  8. hlennarz

    hlennarz Forum Resident

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    I wonder if there are other audible differences to the "regular peasant" SDE set.
     
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  9. sgtpppr84

    sgtpppr84 Forum Resident

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    This email address for Universal has been used in the past when requesting replacement discs for known errors: [email protected]. I sent them an email about the matter this morning and I'd suggest for others to do the same.
     
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  10. Isamet

    Isamet Forum Resident

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    Thank you!
     
  11. blutiga

    blutiga Forum Resident

    and the guy after that...
     
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  12. gibtti

    gibtti Senior Member

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    It's an odd one - and the timeline can point to either version being the latest.
    Depends on whether the '69 version was swapped out for the '70 version because it was less hissy.
    Japan could actually have an earlier version of the box set masters, not a later version.

    Chris K
     
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  13. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    I am the slightest guy of all on this forum.
     
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  14. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    But why? (Not just asking you, but anyone.)

    Even if a certain manufacturing country somehow received an earlier version of the box set masters (which I still find hard to believe that Apple would have sent out something other than the absolute final version), you would presume that a later version was subsequently sent to all of the manufacturing countries. Why would only Japan be left out? Or do you think that Japan had both versions (the earlier and the later versions) and somehow used the wrong (earlier) one?
     
  15. slane

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    I wonder if the Japan release also has better sourced versions of the two 1970 Glyn Johns mixes (I Me Mine in particular)?
     
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  16. hlennarz

    hlennarz Forum Resident

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    prepare for the japanese set to skyrocket in price
     
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  17. gibtti

    gibtti Senior Member

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    Depends on the timelines of manufacturing - whether Japan was early or late in the process.

    Once the cat was out the bag with the wrong For You Blue mix, did Apple instruct Abbey Road to prepare and distribute new masters, but by that stage only Japan had yet to start production so only they got to use them.
    or was it actually the other way round - was the authentic '69 mix on the original distributed master and deliberately switched late on with the '70 mix for some unknown reason (quality, dropout, too hissy etc) but by that stage Japan had already made the SHM discs so only the EU etc got to use the later version.

    I suppose there could be a third 'Disque Americ' type scenario where Japan have simply just been sent masters not intended for production by mistake?

    Again, the fact that the digital/streaming mixes can be very easily switched, but as of now still use the '70 mix of For You Blue might well be a clue as to what the official 'correct' mix is.

    Chris
     
  18. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    Plausible, yes. But it is weird.
     
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  19. slane

    slane Forum Resident

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    Allegedly the Japan disc has different mastering overall. With that in mind, the true 1969 mix of For You Blue on it actually has less hiss on the intro (the same 1969 intro edited onto the front of the 1970 mix everywhere else) than the regular edition. Once the song gets underway there is no extra hiss, dropouts or other anomalies to require a switch to the 1970 mix by Apple/Universal. So I'm not sure why Apple would substitute it for the 1970 mix.
     
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  20. hlennarz

    hlennarz Forum Resident

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    OK someone really needs to explain what the hell was going on

    I'm really thinking of ordering that shm set now...
     
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  21. thrivingonariff

    thrivingonariff Forum Resident

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    Do you mean "for the 1969" here?
     
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  22. Lovecraft

    Lovecraft Forum Resident

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    Possibly the ultimate example of first world problems. :D
     
  23. 7solqs4iago

    7solqs4iago Forum Resident

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    that's why i'm here, makes me laugh and learn and sometimes get ticked off during my spare time :D
     
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  24. fishcane

    fishcane Dirt Farmer

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    with all the bootleg sessions I’ve collected over the years, they will have to do….
     
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  25. 7solqs4iago

    7solqs4iago Forum Resident

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    and how many did you collect?
     

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