A new Thorens era coming?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by LakeMountain, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. LakeMountain

    LakeMountain Vinyl surfer Thread Starter

    Thorens has a new owner and has launched a new model series, the TD 1600 (and 1601 with additional automatic lift/switch off and XLR connectors). Prices in Germany, as an indication, are 2500€ and 3000€ with arm and without cart.

    Whilst the looks are very retro, the design is completely renewed. It has a new suspension design and an improved motor(housing). An interesting feature is a tensioned wire that compensates the tension of the pulley on the sub-platter. The wire is dampened as well.

    The first review in a reputed German magazine is raving. With an AT ATR9 cart it impressed so much that is regarded as the new reference in its class. The ART 9 was chosen, as Thorens is planning to release its on MC cartridge (TAS 1600), which has similar features to ART9, like a boron cantilever and SLC shapes stylus.

    Is this the start of a new success era for Thorens? I really hope so, I grew up with Thorens and it got me into listening to music!
  2. Dennis Metz

    Dennis Metz Born In A Motor City south of Detroit

    Fonthill, Ontario
    Looks nice, but no:cheers:
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  3. tumbleweed

    tumbleweed Kozmik Kowboy

    Colorado foothills
    Ignore who owns the name now, the original company is long gone. I'd be more interested in the actual provenance of the 'table itself. If it's made by Fehrenbacher (who was making the previous designs along with "Dual" branded stuff, then no.
  4. Ray Blend

    Ray Blend Sicko

    The Midwest
    Looks like a cross between a 160 and a Philips table.
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  5. PhxJohn

    PhxJohn Forum Resident

    Phoenix, AZ
    That didn't last long. LOL.
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  6. LakeMountain

    LakeMountain Vinyl surfer Thread Starter

    The new owner is Gunter Kürten. Not sure, if he designed it. He wanted to keep the exterior more or less the same, but the interior is completely re-designed.
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  7. ls35a

    ls35a Forum Resident

    Eagle, Idaho
    Yeah, that stuff was awful. This looks interesting, at least. Any word on who the importer is?
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  8. Dream On

    Dream On Forum Resident

    For some reason it doesn't look quite as nice as a TD160 to me, even though the looks are very similar. Hard to pinpoint why. Might be a great table though.

    Here is a video of it in action:

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  9. bever70

    bever70 It's all about the soundstage

    The high gloss should be on the platter, not on the plinth :cheers:! That's why.
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  10. KT88

    KT88 Forum Resident

    It's like Denon and Linn had a love child.
  11. GoldprintAudio

    GoldprintAudio Forum Resident

    Lexington, NC
    Rutherford Audio has been the US importer for a while now....but oddly enough, they no longer list Thorens on their website.
  12. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Athens, Tennessee
    It looks more TD 150 to me in styling, with a more modern arm installed.
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  13. Ray Blend

    Ray Blend Sicko

    The Midwest
    As an OG TD160 owner, I must say it looks cool as heck.
  14. Thorensman

    Thorensman Forum Resident

    Whats in a name?
    Looks good.
    Hi World gave it a good review.
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  15. csgreene

    csgreene Forum Resident

    Idaho, USA
    I don't have a clue about whether this will be a great or not so great table but I sure prefer the look of this style over my Technics GR.
  16. SirMarc

    SirMarc Forum Resident

    Cranford, NJ
  17. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

    SF Bay Area
    This looks really interesting. Honestly, I wonder why it's taken them so long to do this sort of modern update on their classic turntables.
  18. LakeMountain

    LakeMountain Vinyl surfer Thread Starter

    It apparently needs an outsider enthusiast to re-build on the name of a more or less dead brand. To me it is an interesting choice to use the “old” looks of the TD 160 to make a new TT. I suppose they thought about it carefully why to go this way and not to come up with a completely different (modern) looking design.

    I got here a picture of the new interior.
    1. Baseplate, 2. Springs that are tensioned from below now, 3.MDF frame , 4. sub-platter, 5. Tonearm base, 6. DC motor, 7. Adjustable feet 8. Pen that holds tension wire to avoid pull by pulley on bearing.

    I also did not mention that it comes with an external power supply unit for the motor.
  19. Erocka2000

    Erocka2000 Forum Resident

    Brooklyn, NY, USA
    What happened to that Thorens TD-124 direct drive that was pictured at some audio show this past year?
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  20. Bobsblkwax

    Bobsblkwax Forum Resident

    So it looks like the arm board is attached to the top plate, and the whole is suspended. More like the TD125 than the TD 160. Nice!
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  21. sbo

    sbo Active Member

    I have heard from a guy that repairs old Thorens TT here in Switzerland that the new owner of Thorens Mr. Kürten is quite serious about making good turntables. At least much more than the guy before that just used the name to make some money with junk TT's. But for me, nothing is as cool as the original Thorens :) Especially the Direct drive td 124 seems a strange idea to me.
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  22. Davey

    Davey NP: Elori Saxl - The Blue of Distance

    SF Bay Area, USA
    No, the armboard is still mounted to the suspended subchassis along with the platter as in the past. As shown above, the subchassis has a MDF frame, but with a metal piece connecting tonearm and platter bearing (blue part in rendering below). There is a stabilizing string between the subchassis and chassis added in this new design.


    Thorens TD1601 Turntable – part 1
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  23. jonwoody

    jonwoody Tragically Unhip

    Washington DC
  24. Raylinds

    Raylinds Resident Lake Surfer

    That's a nice looking TT. I wouldn't mind seeing a classic brand like Thorens make a comeback.
  25. Helom

    Helom Forum member

    Looks like maybe the arm has adjustable effective mass...or that's just a connection collar?
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