Abbey Road 50th contents, outtakes and sound quality thread .. only

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  1. mikecarrera

    mikecarrera Forum Resident

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  2. Royce

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    And here's the Abbey Road sessions discs with the Anthology 3 tracks added:

    Disc 2 Sessions

    1. I Want You (She’s So Heavy) (Trident Recording Session & Reduction Mix)
    2. All Things Must Pass (Studio Demo) (Anthology 3)
    3. Goodbye (Home Demo)
    4. Something (Studio Demo) (Guitar, Vocal) (Anthology 3)
    5. Something (Studio Demo) (Guitar, Piano, Vocal)
    6. The Ballad Of John And Yoko (Take 7)
    7. Old Brown Shoe (Studio Demo) (Anthology 3)
    8. Old Brown Shoe (Take 2)
    9. Oh! Darling (Take 4)
    10. Octopus's Garden (Mix of Takes 2 & 8) (Anthology 3)
    11. Octopus’s Garden (Take 9)
    12. You Never Give Me Your Money (Take 36)
    13. Her Majesty (Takes 1–3)
    14. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Takes 1–3 / Medley)
    15. Here Comes The Sun (Take 9)
    16. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (Take 5) (Anthology 3)
    17. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (Take 12)

    Disc 3: Sessions

    1. Come Together (Take 1) (Anthology 3)
    2. Come Together (Take 5)
    3. The End (Take 3)
    4. The End (Remix) (Anthology 3)
    5. Come And Get It (Studio Demo) (1969 Mix)
    6. Come And Get It (Studio Demo) (1982 Mix) (Anthology 3)
    7. Ain't She Sweet (Jam from 24 July 1969) (Anthology 3)

    8. Sun King (Take 20)
    9. Mean Mr Mustard (Take 20)
    10. Polythene Pam (Take 27)
    11. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (Take 27)
    12. Because (Take 1 – Instrumental)
    13. Because (Acapella) (Anthology 3)
    14. The Long One (Trial Edit & Mix – 30 July 1969) (Side Two Medley: You Never Give Me Your Money thru The End)
    15. Something (Take 39 – Instrumental – Strings Only)
    16. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Take 17 – Instrumental – Strings & Brass Only)
     
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  3. thrivingonariff

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    Despite having traveled this road with you before in connection with the White Album and reached a dead end, I'll mention that the average DR for Pepper's is 08, not 06. You've chosen to mention the only song on Pepper's that is DR6. (For the record, I find certain parts of Pepper's to be too loud.)

    As for using DR as shorthand, I agree that it has its place, but I also think that it's abused by some, whose grasp of the technical aspects of it seems questionable and who use it as a way to "prove" that a record is mixed or mastered badly when it may only be a matter of it being mixed or mastered differently. Those who like to bandy about DR numbers may want to consider the following, from the DROffline MkII User Manual:

    "Due to the natural obstacles of dynamics measurement in general, DR values are more precise for smaller values, where there is little contrast between loud and soft, and may deviate more the larger or higher the DR value."

    "Before digging into more meaningful systems to describe music–oriented dynamic variations, we’d like to point out a major problem which is inherent in measurement and subjective perception. Within the audio technology community, you’ll find a lot of research about dynamic range and associated topics, and many studies are unfortunately based on erroneous assumptions. Recent research of the PMF (Pleasurize Music Foundation) led by our own Mr. MAAT, Friedemann Tischmeyer, revealed the inability of a listener to statistically and repeatedly evaluate subjective dynamics and the vitality of the transient structure. Even a group of skilled professional listeners, who most people would think of as 'golden ears', proved this inability of the human ear/brain mechanism to properly evaluate dynamic quality and transient vitality..."
     
  4. Cookie!

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    Ah, after looking at the list above and doing brief research, I see that the take of "Oh, Darling!" that I referenced before, the one on Anthology 3 that features a delighted John, is actually from the Get Back/Let It Be sessions.
     
  5. Lemon Curry

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    DR numbers aside, we are in the midst of loudness wars. The topic is well documented. It is easily perceived on loudspeakers, but even with headphones you will sense ear fatigue from everything being loud.
     
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  6. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Moral ?
     
  7. Lemon Curry

    Lemon Curry (A) Face In The Crowd

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    That a good mix with good dynamics sounds great!
     
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  8. ralph7109

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    Nice - thank you for doing that.
     
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  9. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    So the original uk vinyl is superior?
     
  10. Royce

    Royce Forum Resident

    You're welcome! :)
     
  11. vonwegen

    vonwegen Forum Resident

    I hope they do Revolver next.
     
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  12. Arnold Grove

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    Well, it looks like Let It Be for 2020. So Revolver won't be happening until 2021 at the earliest, if Apple starts working backwards.
     
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  13. vonwegen

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    It's in the center, and the organ part spreads across the stereo soundstage and swamps it a bit.
     
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  15. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Missed 50th Anniversary so perhaps 60th Anniversary which would make it a 2026 release. Hope I’m w r o n g.
     
  16. vonwegen

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    The Rockband remix of Rubber Soul is (mostly) pretty great, especially George's multi-tracked rockabilly guitars on "Run For You Life." It's a bit dynamically compressed though.
     
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  17. ralph7109

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    I hope they fix Revolver next
     
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  18. vonwegen

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    Yeah, though I do like the mono mix, except for those dynamically squashed cymbals. "Got To Get You Into My Life" is so much better edited than the stereo version.
     
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  19. vonwegen

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    That was my beef as well. It's also what I really don't like about the Giles remix of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"--he sticks Macca's bass in one ear and it sounds utterly wrong to my ears, which is why I "replaced" the first 3 songs of the 2017 Pepper remix with the Yellow Sub Songtrack mixes--making for a much nicer listening experience.
     
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  20. andrewskyDE

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    I made some artwork for the digital collection. Frame based on the Sgt. Pepper 50 set.

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. andrewskyDE

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    This is actually from the Get Back sessions, so we might get this or some other take in the Let It Be box set next year.
     
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  22. andrewskyDE

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    Think the book will give us a bit of a background, what happened after the White Album and before the Abbey Road sessions began.
     
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  23. andrewskyDE

    andrewskyDE Island Owner

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    Nice! But, as an exception, I would put the Anthology mix of 'The End' to the end of Disc 3.
     
  24. andrewskyDE

    andrewskyDE Island Owner

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    Or making two box sets per year then, like Paul's Archive series.
     
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  25. Arnold Grove

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    Don't get crazy! ;)
     
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