Alternate/Fantasy MONKEES albums

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by VeeFan64, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. TheNomadicSoul

    TheNomadicSoul Active Member

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    Chicagoland
    Well.. I've never thought of anything like this. Upon first look, I thought.. this is dumb. Then I started to picture all of the songs in my mind together on one LP... I think this would work! I mean, it's not a brilliant LP by any means... with a couple exceptions, the songs aren't THAT great to begin with. But I think I'm gonna rip this to the computer and give it a listen. I could even see a "Don't Do It" b/w "Dream Girl" 45 released to accompany this LP.
     
  2. VeeFan64

    VeeFan64 A 60s Music Kind of Guy Thread Starter

    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    PAC&J

    Didn't try to change much with this classic.

    Side 1

    1.Salesman
    2.She Hangs Out
    3.The Door Into Summer
    4.Hard To Believe
    5.Words
    6.Cuddly Toy

    Side Two

    1.Pleasant Valley Sunday
    2.What Am I Doing Hangin' Round?
    3.Star Collector (edit)
    4.Daydream Believer
    5.Love Is Only Sleeping

    Head

    Ok, in my alternate universe there was no TBTB&TM....just a beefed up Head soundtrack! In the style of the Beatles' "Hard Day's Night" and "Help" soundtracks

    1.Porpoise Song
    2.War Chant
    3.Circle Sky
    4.Can You Dig It
    5.As We Go Along
    6.Daddy's Song
    7.Long Title:Do I Have To Do This All Over Again

    Side Two

    1.Valleri
    2.Tear The Top Right Off My Head
    3.PO Box 9847
    4.Dream World
    5.Come On In
     
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  3. VeeFan64

    VeeFan64 A 60s Music Kind of Guy Thread Starter

    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    Instant Replay

    In my alternate universe, Micky becomes disgusted with the whole Monkees project and demands that outtakes and previously unreleased material be used instead of fresh new tunes. Dacy gets many new tunes on the album and so does Mike.

    Side One

    1.Tear Drop City
    2.Me Without You
    3.I Won't Be The Same Without Her
    4.Someday Man
    5.Carsile Wheeling
    6.Smile

    Side Two

    1.You And I
    2.Don't Wait For Me
    3.Through The Looking Glass
    4.Don't Listen To Linda (1966 version)
    5.St Matthew
    6.A Man Without A Dream

    The Monkees Present...

    Micky is still unwilling to produce new tracks for The Monkees, so three previously unreleased on record tunes will represent him on the record.

    Side One

    1.Good Clean Fun
    2.If You Have The Time
    3.Teeny Tiny Gnome
    4.I've Just Begun To Care (Propinquity)
    5.Do Not Ask For Love (Micky lead voc)

    Side Two

    1.Apples, Peaches, Bananas, & Pears
    2.Ceiling In My Room
    3.If I Ever Get To Saginaw Again
    4.Love To Love
    5.Listen To The Band

    My rework of Changes is going to blow your minds...
     
  4. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    1967

    MORE OF THE MONKEES - LP 1/67 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    She
    When Love Comes Knockin' (At Your Door)
    Hold On Girl
    Marry, Mary
    Your Auntie Grizelda
    Of You
    (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone

    SIDE TWO
    Apples, Peaches, Bananas And Pears
    Look Out (Here Come Tomorrow)
    The Kind Of Girl I Could Love
    The Day We Fell In Love
    Sometime In The Morning
    Laugh
    I'm A Believer


    WORDS - EP 2/67 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE A
    Words (early version)
    I'll Spend My Life With You (early version)

    SIDE B
    Valleri (early version)
    I'll Be Back Up On My Feet (early version)


    DAVY JONES - EP 3/67 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE A
    A Little Bit Me, A Little You
    If I Learned To Play The Violin

    SIDE B
    She Hangs Out (early version)
    99 Pounds


    SINGLE - 5/67 (RCA UK Release)
    All Of Your Toys
    b/w
    The Girl I Knew Somewhere


    HEADQUARTERS - LP 6/67 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    You Told Me
    I'll Spend My Life With You
    Forget That Girl
    You Just May Be The One
    Mr. Webster
    The Girl I Knew Somewhere
    Shades Of Gray

    SIDE TWO
    All Of Your Toys
    For Pete's Sake
    Sunny Girlfriend
    Zilch
    No Time
    Early Morning Blues And Greens
    Alternate Title (aka Randy Scouse Git)


    ALTERNATE TITLE - EP 7/67 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE A
    Alternate Title
    I Can't Get Her Off My Mind

    SIDE B
    Forget That Girl
    Shades Of Gray


    SINGLE - 9/67 (RCA UK Release)
    Pleasant Valley Sunday
    b/w
    Cuddly Toy


    PISCES, AQUARIUS, CAPRICORN & JONES LTD. - LP 11/67 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Special Announcement
    Pleasant Valley Sunday
    She Hangs Out
    The Door Into Summer
    Cuddly Toy
    Words
    Goin' Down

    SIDE TWO
    Salesman
    Hard To Believe
    What Am I Doing Hangin' Round
    Daily Nightly
    Don't Call On Me
    Star Collector


    SINGLE - 12/67 (RCA UK Release)
    Daydream Believer
    b/w
    Love Is Only Sleeping


    Starting with MOTM, nothing that much changes -- just added a couple of extra tracks. The Words EP is much more interesting (similiar to The Beatles Long Tall Sally EP, which contained all new material). Valleri gets a lot of airplay back in the US. There was a lot going on in 1967. I always thought, and agreed upon historically, that Davy Jones was always given an extra look overseas. I think is was best to seperate his work with Barry in early '67 as work on a solo European EP. Obviously, using my theory of only releasing what was available, there is no Love To Love or Mustang -- since they had no vocal yet. That leaves the four tracks used on the EP. Next was a single; I chose All Of Your Toys as the A side, though it's a tough call. The Headquarters album is pretty much the same, only I added the single. Toys is a great side two opener. Alternate Title will still be well recieved as an EP, which also included the Headquarters outtake ICGHOMM. Band 6 will not be heard overseas. Pleasant Valley Sunday is the next single backed with Cuddly Toy -- Words was already mildly successful in it's alternate early version as an EP. I never thought much of re-releasing previously released early versions of songs as updated new versions on LP's -- this trend will continue throughout my discography. On Pisces, I like the lead-off track Special Announcement into PVS. It really kicks off the album. PPPPPP will not be heard overseas -- may give collectors a reason to find an import copy. Goin' Down closes side one. Love Is Only Sleeping is the b-side of Daydream Believer overseas and not included on the LP. This was kind-of how it was originally going to go down anyway. As an overall, my approach is to un-"butcher" the US versions (which in this universe, in Beatles terms, are the "Capitol" releases, and mine are the "Parlaphone" releases). The EP's serve to clean up some vault material. Some release dates are delayed to put some distance between releases -- and prevent ovesaturation, which is almost impossible.
     
  5. VeeFan64

    VeeFan64 A 60s Music Kind of Guy Thread Starter

    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    Changes

    After my alternate versions of Instant Replay and The Monkees Present, Micky has had enough and quits the band. This leaves only Davy and Mike for the final Monkees release-Changes.

    I wish this version was pressed up on vinyl!

    Side One-Davy

    1.Do You Feel It Too?
    2.Storybook of You
    3.I'm Gonna Try
    4.So Goes Love
    5.I Never Thought It Peculiar
    6.Time And Time Again

    Side Two-Mike

    1.Down The Highway
    2.The Crippled Lion
    3.Nine Times Blue
    4.Hollywood
    5.Some Of Shelley's Blues
    6.Of You

    And so ends my alternate/fantasy Monkees universe...
     
  6. BobT

    BobT Resident Monkeeman

    Wow, that is wild! Why was Micky so PO'ed that he quit the group, and why would Mike stick around with Davy? Strange days, indeed!
     
  7. VeeFan64

    VeeFan64 A 60s Music Kind of Guy Thread Starter

    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    Well, I kind of made up the story for the sake of the album, there was no way I could fix "Changes" so I had to pretend that Micky's stuff like "Mommy and Daddy" and "Shorty Blackwell" were being turned down for release, so he split instead of Mike, who had pretty much the entire creative control.
     
  8. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    I can't knock it, 'cause it's fantasy (just pretend). But, really, Micky would have been the last one standing. And, with all the "changes", there would have never been those recording sessions or those songs. The smallest alterations change the future. I tend to lean more towards slight alterations, away from home -- where it wouldn't effect them or their recordings. Maybe. The should'ves and would'ves is what I like to speculate, based a lot on recording information, intention, and Sandoval's research.
     
  9. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    1968

    SINGLE - 3/68 (RCA UK Release)
    Valleri
    b/w
    Tapioca Tundra


    THE BIRDS, THE BEES & THE MONKEES - LP 4/68 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Tapioca Tundra
    Dream World
    Auntie's Municipal Court
    We Were Made For Each Other
    Alvin
    Daydream Believer
    Writing Wrongs

    SIDE TWO
    D.W. Washburn
    It's Nice To Be With You
    I'll Be Back Up On My Feet
    The Poster
    P.O. Box 9847
    Carlisle Wheeling Effervesant Popsicle
    Zor And Zam


    DAVY JONES VOLUME 2 - EP 6/68 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE A
    The Girl I Left Behind Me
    I'm Gonna Try

    SIDE B
    The Ceiling In My Room
    Party


    SINGLE - 7/68 (RCA UK Release)
    P.O. Box 9847
    b/w
    Magnolia Simms


    SINGLE - 10/68 (RCA UK Release)
    Porpoise Song
    b/w
    As We Go Along


    HEAD - LP 10/68 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Porpoise Song
    Circle Sky
    Can You Dig It?
    Daddy's Song
    Long Title: Do I Have To Do This All Over Again
    As We Go Along

    SIDE TWO
    St. Matthew
    War Games
    Rosemarie
    The Merry-Go-Round Song
    Look Down
    Shorty Blackwell


    SINGLE - 11/68 (RCA UK Release)
    Daddy's Song
    b/w
    Circle Sky


    HEAD (ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK) - LP 11/68 (US Version, Limited)


    Again, not much in the way of differences, maybe a little, for Birds. I wanted to get DW on there, because it wasn't going to be a single here. I moved Magnolia to the b-side of their next single -- kind of the way The Beatles put Inner Light on the flip, to please George (same here, just with Mike). Another Jones EP. When we get to the Head album, I wanted to do a little more with it. Just as The Beatles soundtrack albums were represented in the UK, I did with The Monkees. My choices for the second side fall in line with music inspired by the movie, or simply, just weird enough to fit. There will be a soundtrack version released here, exactly the same as the US version, just with the live Circle Sky here. The single for Daddy's Song is also released here, just a little earlier than it actually was.
     
  10. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    1969

    SINGLE - 2/69 (RCA UK Release)
    Through The Looking Glass
    b/w
    A Man Without A Dream


    INSTANT REPLAY - LP 3/69 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Through The Looking Glass
    Don't Listen To Linda
    I Won't Be The Same Without Her
    Shake 'Em Up And Let It Roll
    Me Without You
    Don't Wait For Me
    Prithee (Do Not Ask For Love)

    SIDE TWO
    Teardrop City
    While I Cry
    The Girl I Left Behind Me
    Kickin' Stones
    Nine Times Blue
    A Man Without A Dream
    Looking For The Good Times


    SINGLE - 5/69 (RCA UK Release)
    Someday Man
    b/w
    Mommy And Daddy


    THE MONKEES MILLION SELLERS - EP 6/69 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE A
    Last Train To Clarksville
    I'm A Believer

    SIDE B
    Daydream Believer
    Pleasant Valley Sunday


    SINGLE - 8/69 (RCA UK Release)
    Listen To The Band
    b/w
    Steam Engine


    THE MONKEES PRESENT... - LP 9/69 (RCA European Release)

    DAVID JONES
    The Good Earth
    Someday Man
    If You Have The Time
    Smile
    If I Knew
    You And I
    French Song

    MICKY DOLENZ
    Little Girl
    Mommy And Daddy
    Just A Game
    Bye Bye Baby Bye Bye
    Midnight Train
    Pillow Time
    We'll Be Back In A Minute

    MICHAEL NESMITH
    Good Clean Fun
    Propinquity (I've Just Begun To Care)
    Some Of Shelly's Blues
    Hollywood
    The Crippled Lion
    Listen To The Band

    THE MONKEES
    Steam Engine
    Little Red Rider
    Penny Music
    You're So Good
    Down The Highway
    My Storybook Of You


    THE MONKEES GREATEST HITS - LP 12/69 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Last Train To Clarksville
    I Wanna Be Free
    I'm A Believer
    All Of Your Toys
    A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You
    (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone
    Shades Of Gray

    SIDE TWO
    Daydream Believer
    Alternate Title
    Cuddly Toy
    Pleasant Valley Sunday
    Valleri
    Through The Looking Glass
    Listen To The Band


    Instant Replay had been filled with leftover tracks, the Monkees Present was already in planning. However, the group hadn't finished their individual contributions yet, and there was the matter of Peter Tork's departure. It was time to release an album, so I felt we'll gather as much quality material that had not been determined for Present. The group gathered several tracks as well, helped with some new overdubs, new mixes, etc., and the album was rushed to release. The name Instant Replay suits their compilation. Another EP was expected as well, but I felt it best to throw out a compilation of hits. EP sales were falling fast. As the next album was being pieced together, singles were selected -- one from each side of soon-to-be releasedPresent. Nesmith spent a considerable amount of time recording new tracks to cover the vacant Peter side, coming up with a group concept, featuring sounds they have been working with on tour with The Goodtimers. His solo work had been completed for some time. Although Present represents individual sides, it's the most group concerted effort they've done since Headquarters. Everyone was content, everyone was equally involved, and, in regards to the last side, they worked with concepts that were sucessful in the past. This would be the last time. They wanted to make it count. Too bad it didn't go this way in the US.
     
  11. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    1970

    SINGLE - 4/70 (RCA UK Release)
    Oh My My
    b/w
    I Never Thought It Peculiar


    CHANGES - LP 5/70 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Oh My My
    You're So Good To Me
    It's Got To Be Love
    Never Tell A Woman Yes
    Acapulco Sun
    Love To Love
    Ticket On A Ferry Ride

    SIDE TWO
    I Love You Better
    Tell Me Love
    Oaklahoma Backroom Dancer
    Do You Feel It Too?
    All Alone In The Dark
    Angel Band
    Time And Time Again


    SINGLE - 7/70 (RCA UK Release)
    Time And Time Again
    b/w
    Ladies Aid Society


    SINGLE - 11/70 (RCA UK Release)
    Do It In The Name Of Love
    b/w
    Lady Jane


    A BARREL FULL OF MONKEES - LP 11/70 (RCA European Release)

    SIDE ONE
    (Theme From) The Monkees
    Last Train To Clarksville
    I Can't Get Her Off My Mind (early version)
    You Just May Be The One (early version)
    I Wanna Be Free
    I'll Be Back Up On My Feet (early version)
    Words (early version)

    SIDE TWO
    I'm A Believer
    (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone
    A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You
    The Girl I Knew Somewhere
    She Hangs Out (early version)
    All Of Your Toys
    Alternate Title

    SIDE THREE
    Pleasant Valley Sunday
    Cuddly Toy
    Daydream Believer
    Love Is Only Sleeping
    Valleri
    P.O. Box 9847
    Magnolia Simms

    SIDE FOUR
    Porpoise Song
    Through The Looking Glass
    Someday Man
    Steam Engine
    You Can't Tie A Mustang Down
    Oh My My
    Listen To The Band


    With the critical success of Present, though not as reflective on the charts, The Monkees agreed it would be best to include Nesmith tracks on their next album -- though still under contact he was no longer a contributing member of the group, musically. Even with a few good moments, Changes failed to reach an audience. I decided to replace Peculiar with Time And Time Again -- though Peculiar still found it's way onto the b-side of their Oh My My single. Ladies fell onto the b-side of Time And Time Again; my way of putting an odd song onto a flip, similiar to The Beatles' You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) on the flip of Let It Be. The guys came back a few months later to record another single. It was to be the last single of the original era Monkees. I didn't have much of an audience for the new single, though re-runs of the episodes were still popular, so I decided it would be best if we tagged it onto the just-in-for-Christmas release, career spanning, Barrel Full Of Monkees album (which included a good amount of b-sides and hard-to-find EP versions, as well as their biggest hits and one never before heard track). And, my job was over.
     
  12. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    1976

    SINGLE - 12/76 (RCA UK Release)
    Christmas Is My Time Of Year
    b/w
    White Christmas


    THE MONKEES RARITIES - LP 12/76 (RCA UK Release)

    SIDE ONE
    Valleri (early version)
    I'll Spend My Life With You (early version)
    If I Learned To Play The Violin (EP version)
    Mr. Webster (previously unreleased early version)
    99 Pounds (EP version)
    The Girl I Knew Somewhere (previously unreleased alternate vocal version)
    I Can't Get Her Off My Mind (2nd recorded version)

    SIDE TWO
    My Share Of The Sidewalk (previously unreleased)
    Lady's Baby (previously unreleased)
    If I Ever Get To Saginaw Again (previously unreleased)
    I Never Thought It Peculiar (b-side)
    Lady Jane (previously unavailable on LP)
    Do It In The Name Of Love (previously unavailable on LP)
    Ladies Aid Society (b-side)


    It was a good year for The Monkees. Dolenz and Jones were having success back out on the road with Boyce and Hart. The Monkees latest Greasest Hits was on the charts. The powers-that-be decided it was time to cash in on the groups sudden popularity. With only a couple of new Christmas recordings, I was asked if I could scrape something up. I searched the vault for any worthy recordings and also decided it was best to get some of those hard-to-find b-sides and EP tracks onto a record at last. The Monkees Rarities seemed like an appropriate title. My only regret is that I wasn't able to get that second Davy Jones EP on there. Maybe another time.
     
  13. Jason Penick

    Jason Penick Forum Resident

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    USA
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    Jason Penick Forum Resident

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  15. StewMac

    StewMac Member

    This has to be one of the coolest monkees colgems record concepts to date! Good stuff!
     
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  16. dasjr

    dasjr Forum Resident

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    Corning, NY, USA
    Heck, the original album didn't stick to era SONGS, so sticking to era PHOTOS seems irrelevant, right? :D
     
  17. BobT

    BobT Resident Monkeeman

    Very nice back cover! Excellent job :righton:
     
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  18. mr.schneider

    mr.schneider Active Member

    Location:
    N. Beechwood Dr.
    Jason- I'm diggin' the fact that you shortened up Listen To The Band to 4:51. By that time it turns to psychedelic mush and The Monkees are no longer audible.
     
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  19. Jason Penick

    Jason Penick Forum Resident

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    USA
    Heh heh... I don't think there's any other way it would have fit on the same side with the medley! :laugh:
     
  20. zappa

    zappa New Member

    Location:
    St Pete, Florida
    howzabout head???
     
  21. wayne66

    wayne66 Forum Resident

    Jason. Great work on that "lost album" cover.I consider 33 and a third a real album. I wish Andrew finds the masters. One change that I would make is that I would eliminate the non Monkees songs and include the two Davy songs produced by Bones Howe, Someday Man and A Man Without a Dream.They were recorded around the same time.
     
  22. mr_mjb1960

    mr_mjb1960 I'm a Tarrytowner 'Til I die!

    Amazing cover,Antifrodis! This was what Colgems should've printed! THANX!:righton:
     
  23. mr_mjb1960

    mr_mjb1960 I'm a Tarrytowner 'Til I die!

    I agree..another missed opportunity Colgems missed on..I hope Andrew's looking at these..Nice Covers,Wayne and Antifrodis...Keep 'em comin'!:righton:
     
  24. Antifrodis

    Antifrodis Forum Resident

    Thanks for the compliments, but I didn't do any of these covers. I just commented on the Instant Replay cover. The covers are great tho'!
     
  25. wayne66

    wayne66 Forum Resident

    Ditto, I was commenting on Jason good work on the 33 and a Third album cover.
     
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