And The Oscar For Best Picture Of The Year Goes To...

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  1. brucewayneofgotham

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    Yes , it is actually , pretty obvious what won , even in 2022.
     
  2. AppleBonker

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    Keep in mind that the Oscars are an industry award; big glitzy spectacle pictures like Towering Inferno (or Dr. Doolittle, or Cleopatra) get nominated because they give jobs to a LOT of people in the industry. And they are always made fun of when it happens!

    The 1968 slate for Best Picture:
    In the Heat of the Night
    The Graduate
    Bonnie and Clyde
    Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
    and...

    Dr. Doolittle

    I highly suggest the book Pictures at a Revolution, which takes a thorough look at the Oscar race for that year and the five very different movies that were nominated. This was a turning point in Hollywood history as the new generation were knocking at the door and the old guard were still flexing their muscles. Fascinating stuff if you are interested in how these films get made, marketed and nominated for awards.

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  3. Uncle Meat

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    I love Oliver, music and dancing is great, and it has a goon in it as well.
     
  4. Uncle Meat

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    My favorite part of the book is Warren saying that he didnt know that movies could be that good after seeing The Rules of the Game, and it is that good.
     
  5. Uncle Meat

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    Cut the guy some slack, didnt he do Pans Labyrinth, which was the best picture of that year. Devils Backbone is no slouch eithrr.
     
  6. Vidiot

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    Yeah, 1968-1969 is basically the beginning of "New Hollywood vs. the Old Hollywood." It was an interesting but sad time of careers wrecked, terrible change, and finances dashed... but I think ultimately, that kind of change was necessary. A much earlier book, Easy Riders and Raging Bulls, covers the same period and the same problem, only from the filmmakers' point of view...

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    Required reading for anybody who wants to understand how Old Hollywood got transformed into New Hollywood in the 1970s and 1980s. You can make an argument that the same thing is happening again, with traditional theatrical releases vs. streaming: Netflix, Amazon, Apple, HBOMax, and all those companies have pushed everything sideways, where nobody really knows how to make hit movies anymore. I like to believe that the only ure thing is that "people always want to watch good entertainment," but figuring out what that is and how to bring it to them is a challenge.
     
  7. tommy-thewho

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    Haven't seen that many. Maybe 20 of them.
     
  8. jjhunsecker

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  9. jjhunsecker

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    I still maintain the Best Picture of 1975 slate (awarded in 76) is still the best line-up ever. Any of the films were deserving of the award
     
  10. Manapua

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    Looking over the winners list for the last two decades, it appears one of a film's best chances for taking home the Oscar is to have a one word title. Perspective filmmakers should keep this in mind.
     
  11. Randall DeBouvre

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    I disagree with Tom Jones, I thought it was great with a wonderful script by playwright John Osborne.

    I agree with most of the other ones, except the ones that came after the year 2ooo. I only saw one of them, shakespeare in love, which I liked a lot, but it may not have deserved an oscar.
     
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  12. neo123

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    Here are all 42 winners I've seen (or at least remember seeing) in chronological order of the Oscar years:

    All Quiet On The Western Front
    Mutiny On The Bounty
    Gone With The Wind
    Casablanca
    The Greatest Show On Earth
    Around The World In 80 Days
    ..................(The Ten Commandments should've won that year.)
    The Bridge On The River Kwai
    Ben-Hur
    West Side Story
    Lawrence Of Arabia
    My Fair Lady
    The Sound Of Music
    A Man For All Seasons
    Oliver!
    Midnight Cowboy
    The Godfather
    The Sting
    The Godfather Part II
    One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
    Rocky
    The Deer Hunter
    Chariots Of Fire
    Gandhi
    Platoon
    Rain Man
    Driving Miss Daisy
    ........................(There were more worthy films than this one, such as Born On The Fourth Of July, Dead Poets Society, Field Of Dreams, and My Left Foot. Hell, all the other nominees were more worthy.)
    Dances With Wolves............................(Unfortunate for Goodfellas being in the same year as this movie.)
    The Silence Of The Lambs
    Unforgiven
    ....................................................................(This was a shoo-in, but I particularly didn't like it. One of my least favorite Clint westerns. Didn't like any of the other nominees that year. My favorite film from that year was The Last Of The Mohicans and that wasn't even nominated for best picture, which was a disgrace that it didn't.)
    Forrest Gump........................................(Liked it and glad it won, but Shawshank Redemption and Pulp Fiction were more deserving.)
    Braveheart........................(another shoo-in)
    The English Patient..........................(I liked Jerry MaGuire and Fargo better.)
    Titanic
    American Beauty
    .......................(The Sixth Sense and The Green Mile were more deserving.)
    Gladiator
    A Beautiful Mind
    The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King
    .......................(another shoo-in and well-deserved.)
    Million Dollar Baby........................(Probably won because not much competition that year. Ray or Sideways were probably the only movies that year that even had a long shot chance of winning.)
    Crash....................................(Didn't like any of the movies nominated that year.)
    The Departed
    No Country For Old Men
    ..................................(The ending ruined it for me. Up until the ending, I thought it was great.)
    Argo.........................(Like it, but I also liked Django Unchained, Life Of Pi, Lincoln, and Zero Dark Thirty from that year.)


    (Didn't see any of the winners after Argo, as none of them appealed to me.)


    The first winner that I remember seeing in the theatre when it was released was The Sting. I was just 7 years old, but I remember seeing it in the theatre with my parents and brother. All the other winners I listed prior to that year I either saw at 2nd run Drive-ins with the family as a kid or on TV. And I'm sure I've seen bits and pieces of other winners while channel surfing, but not remember any particulars.
     
  13. Randall DeBouvre

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    I must be an old fart at heart. I didn't see any of the movies from the 2000s that won an Oscar.
    I also got to be honest here. While I respect the Godfather and Godfather II as much as the next white American dude, Casablanca, It Happened one Night, and The Grand Hotel are my favorites. Actually, Citizen Kane would be my favorite, if it won.
     
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  14. Randall DeBouvre

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    I also must be more artsy -fartsy than I thought because cries and whispers is my favorite. the only other movie on that list that I saw was american graffitti . it was pretty good. to me the secret weapons of that film were candy clark and charles martin smith.
     
  15. Randall DeBouvre

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    except for towering inferno, 1974's nominees were all powerhouses.
    I agree that cuckoos nest should have one. however, barry lyndon is a sentimental favorite. I love that period of history and it is my favorite stanley kubrick film.
    I love Rocky, particularly the romance between Rocky and Adrian. However, Taxi Driver and the slightly overrated Network really captured the zeitgeist of the time.
     
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  16. Wildest cat from montana

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    As long as that one word isn't ' Ishtar'
     
  17. Roland Stone

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    I remember seeing CRASH well after the fact and thinking of the brief flash of those sort of narratives: BABEL, SYRIANA, TRAFFIC. It's an interesting way to tell a story on an epic scale.

    But CRASH was, by far, the weakest of those movies and IMO not worthy of a nomination, much less a win. BABEL, on the other hand, is still lodged in memory as one of the more powerful films of the last couple decades.
     
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  18. Wildest cat from montana

    Wildest cat from montana Humble Reader Thread Starter

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    Great book. Good documentary too.
     
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  19. Manapua

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    Or Trog?
     
  20. Lightworker

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    I attended an 'art house' showing of Cries And Whispers when it was nominated. The film broke at one point and the screen went dark.
    When the house lights came up temporarily, the audience filed out, thinking that the film had ended. Riveting stuff, that (lol). I didn't find
    out until years later that the film wasn't designed to have a "cold" ending!
     
  21. a customer

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    Paper chase
    Chariots of fire seemed average to me
     
  22. Wildest cat from montana

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    'Chariots of Fire' is a well made, well acted, well produced period movie...and dull as can be.
     
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  23. jjhunsecker

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    Look at the nominees for 1975: One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, Dog Day Afternoon, Barry Lyndon, Nashville, and Jaws. Each one a 4 star masterpiece
     
  24. Wildest cat from montana

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    Saw all of them at the theater the year they came out.
    Of the 10 nominated this year saw one
    On tv.
    Of the 10 nominated this year
     
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  25. I think you’re selling Del Toro a little short. He’s a talented director. ‘Pacific Rim” wasn’t his finest hour but he needed a hit. Who cares of “Nightmare Alley” was a flop? It’s still a brilliant neo-noir. I certainly don’t think “The Shape of Water” was best picture material but that doesn’t detract from his talent.
     

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