Anyone else receive their 1st VNYL subscription LPs package?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by FMills, May 13, 2015.

  1. Beholdentonoone

    Beholdentonoone Forum Resident

    I recently joined a similarly themed Mail Order "Club" Vinyl Me Please

    3 installments in and I am VERY HAPPY thus far…from what I understand they have over 14,000 subscribers already!!!
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  2. Leviethan

    Leviethan Forum Resident

    Portland, OR
    But it's the sharing economy, man! Kickstarter/Uber/AirBnB/etc are just facilitating sharing between ordinary folks! It's so disruptive and twee and progressive and awesome!!!

    And obscenely wealthy venture capitalists and Wall Street parasites are laughing all the way to the bank (that's too big to fail).
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  3. KDubATX

    KDubATX Forum Resident

    I actually confused Vinyl Me with VYNL when I first clicked the link. Im a little tempted by the Vinyl Me subscription.
  4. FrixFrixFrix

    FrixFrixFrix Forum Resident

    Parts Unknown
    Just commenting so I can follow along as this develops ;)
  5. Beholdentonoone

    Beholdentonoone Forum Resident

    DO NOT confuse VYNL with Vinyl Me Please…My very 1st purchase from Vinyl Me Please was the Dilla album they did for March…well there was a pressing defect in their master and here was the email I and everyone else received immediately…NOW THIS IS WHAT I CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!!!

    "Hello VMP record guild,

    On Tuesday (3/10) we started shipping your J Dilla - 'Donuts' records as fast as our little fingers could manage. We currently have shipped approximately 60% of the March packages and are working as fast as possible to ship the rest.

    Before your record arrives, however, we wanted to point out something we noticed prior to shipping - a production defect that somehow made it all the way to us before being discovered.

    We heard a "whoosh"
    While giving ‘Donuts’ a final listen prior to shipping we noticed a faint “whoosh” sound on the first two tracks of Side A. We sampled multiple records in hopes that it was an isolated case, but found that while the surface noise varied in intensity from copy to copy, it was nonetheless noticeable on the majority of the records we pulled.

    Since we'd been assured by the plant & our production partners that our pressing was good to go, this made us pretty really angry...


    We immediately got together with Stones Throw Records & the pressing plant, rooted out the source of the defect and got about the business of sending you a whoosh-free A/B side of ‘Donuts'.

    This defect was caught while the last batch (approx 10% of the total order) was still being pressed -- they were held while the defect was remedied and will be slightly delayed (will be shipping the week of Mar 23rd.)

    For those of you not affected by the delay, a replacement disc (A/B side) is being pressed as you read this. It will be shipped to you with your April Vinyl Me, Pleaserecord free of charge. If your membership ends prior to April, your replacement will ship by itself in the same method and timeline as active members.

    If you have questions, we've set up a dedicated thread regarding this issue at the VMP Forum.

    We've been doing this for just over two years now and have noticed that delays and production mistakes are widely accepted in the record industry as just a part of doing business - we think think this is a weak excuse. We're doing our part to improve things as we believe you deserve the best possible pressing of each album we send and we won’t stop working until you have it.

    Baking donuts,

    The Vinyl Me, Please Team"

    Simply AWESOME in my opinion….You would think Capitol US would have proofed the Beatles Stereo Vinyl Box masters before shipping out so many defective copies...
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  6. J Vanarsdale

    J Vanarsdale Forum Resident

    I haven't been to the store, but I highly doubt Rick Rubin was in there. I can pretty much guarantee you that they will have very high prices on mediocre used vinyl. I shop in LA record stores all the time, and there's been an influx, since the "vinyl resurgence", of stores popping up run by hipsters selling records for $20 that are used, 70s rock, not bagged, and usually available elsewhere for $6 to $10. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see...
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  7. TommyTunes

    TommyTunes Senior Member

    What the h**l does hand-curated mean anyway, you think you might know what i like? Geeze, i had aunts who would buy me albums for my birthday in the sixties. Can't tell you how much i loved getting Glen Campbell albums when i wanted The Doors.
    The goal is not aquiring a vinyl collection but getting music you like.
    Never thought Kickstarter was a good idea, i see no point as to why I should fund your business venture. If you believe in what you want to do, go out raise the capital, bring it to market, and if i like what i see i'll buy it.
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  8. motionoftheocean

    motionoftheocean Forum Resident

    New York, NY
    it means some dope, who doesn't know you from a hole in the wall, pulls a bunch of crap randomly from a crate.
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  9. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Cambridge, MA
    Suckers are still born every minute, I guess.

    These albums are easily available for pennies in any used bin.

    That Leon & Mary Russell album isn't one you'd select for ANYONE except someone who's indicated they are a big Leon Russell fan.

    Looks like the way this club will make money is buy shipping albums that they get for only a few cents each. That way, even with shipping, they make money.
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  10. Gaslight

    Gaslight Modern Cad

    Northeast USA
    Well, they were hand curated.

    As in they put their hands in the dollar bin, and pulled out three LP's for you. :cry:
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  11. Kristeva

    Kristeva Forum Resident

    I'm still mesmerized by the sheer audacity of the those involved. It's the most brilliant yet stupid idea ever - start a vinyl subscription website and then fob them off with the kind of vinyl you couldn't pay people to take away from thrift store, lol. I guess they were hoping the majority of their customers would come from the new-to-vinyl hipster demographic. The kind of people who haven't worked out yet that there's ways of sourcing cheap vinyl from thrift stores, boot sales, etc. The kind of people who get caught up in the RSD hype - but even then the majority of people who take part in RSD are knowledgeable, serious and sensible collectors.

    I just can't see who would fall for this ****
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  12. Classicrock

    Classicrock Forum Resident

    South West, UK.
    At least this scam is now getting wide attention.
    Last edited: May 14, 2015
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  13. Buddy>Elvis

    Buddy>Elvis Forum Resident

    New Zealand
    It must be hilarious being a "hand curator" there.

    "Hey Cletus, we got ourselves another #feelingmetal, pass me another Nana Mouskouri"
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  14. raphph

    raphph Forum Resident

    Weirdly, I don't think he's running a scam. I actually feel for the guy. I just think he's in over his head. He obviously enjoys the concept / creative side more than the actual (and boring) logistical side....He'd be better off returning the money....And he's incredibly naive thinking he could send out Pablo Cruise and Steppenwolf to hipster-Kickstarters and that would suffice...But I don't think he set out to scam people - he's just clasping for air...
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  15. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

    I'm not sure if that was his intention but he's definitely a con artist now!

    Looking back on his social media blitz, I do think he expected to make more that $36K as a legitimate businessperson. And now he looks like a complete tool. He got quite a bit of decent press for a few weeks there.

    Should have pulled the plug when he discovered his shaky at best lynchpin service idea was illegal. This is of course assuming he had the stock available to mail out decent records with the option to return. I believe the original fee was just for rental with "option to buy" but now he is stuck sending 3 records plus shipping for $25 or whatever. Of course he mails crappy dross.

    Last edited: May 14, 2015
  16. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident

    What you are all missing is the fact that these are all HOT STAMPERS!

    They are not dollar bin records, each of these is worth at least $100 and it's a complete bargain.

    I think.

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  17. Blender

    Blender Forum Resident

    So let me get this straight.

    This guy raises a bunch of money on Kickstarter. Uses that money to purchase used records in bulk. Pulls the gems from his bulk record stash to seed the inventory of his new brick-and-mortar store and then pawns off the crap in $25 sets of three through the subscription service.

    Does that sound about right?
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  18. FlatulentDonkey

    FlatulentDonkey Forum Resident

    Northern Ireland
  19. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

    Yes. Yes it does.
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  20. Blender

    Blender Forum Resident

    That's Wall Street level evil.
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  21. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

    Yup. Although I don't get the impression this dude has the wherewithal to be an evil supergenius.
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  22. Kristeva

    Kristeva Forum Resident

    Somehow I think there's an element of truth in what you say. I was thinking about it again on my way to work this morning - what's occurred is so unbelievable I have to think he actually set out with good intentions somewhere along the line. Maybe it was sheer naivety, maybe he's only just started collecting/selling vinyl. I guess I take it for granted that I grew up in the age of vinyl and that I understand about things like 1st pressings, what's desirable and what isn't, how to set up a TT, etc.

    I used to work as a printer in the 90's and every now and then a young rich kid would walk in bold as brass with flash cameras and film to process. They'd decided the wanted to start a career as a photographer often without any real training or hands on experience. Once you got to know them you realized their naivety was breathtaking but it was just the exuberance of youth. I was probably like that once, I think.
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  23. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Forum Resident

    Grantham, NH
    Great idea - I have thousands of lame records that no one bought in our store for 20+ years... and we couldn't give away for free.... :o
    Last edited: May 14, 2015
  24. danner

    danner Forum Resident

    Birmingham, AL
    I definitely think he got himself into a corner and didn't know how to get himself out of it. The ethical thing to do would have been to refund people's money once he realized his original business model was impossible. Trying to save face by unloading dollar bin records with cute hashtags isn't the way to correct the situation.
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  25. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

    Agreed. By continuing to propagate such a huge swindle, he has lost all possibility of saving face. He's officially a d*****bag
  26. inperson

    inperson Forum Resident

    Not being patriotic/nationalistic or anything but I'm pretty sure you should have said, "this is the world we live in."
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  27. lightbulb

    lightbulb Not the Brightest of the Bunch

    Smogville CA USA
    I've always been hesitant to subscribe to any such "record/LP/single" of the "month/Salvation Army bin" service.
    I'm sure there are, have been some worthy ones (i.e. Sub Pop, etc).

    But the general concept has a big flaw - unless I know in advance what title or artist they're sending to me:
    For a new release, how would I know not to buy it on my own, when I walk into a record store or shop online?
    For a "vintage" release, how would I know they won't send me a title I already own?
    Specific personal tastes aside, whether they mail me Blood on the Tracks, Rust Never Sleeps, Radio City OR Slippery When Wet, Sports, The Way It Is , if I already have it, it's a useless purchase. At least to most....
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  28. Arkay_East

    Arkay_East Forum Resident

    Oh yeah. The whole model panders to a lowest common denominator even IF it worked as intended. Are you frikkin kidding me?!? I can barely get exactly what I want on a consistent basis when I'm digging for myself!! These people must have less than a dozen records, no personality and rocks for brains to boot.
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  29. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

    southern Illinois
    This may be the best thread I've ever read here. Is Kickstarter merely a license to steal or what?

    I'm all for "let the buyer beware" but people really have no shame. Even if this guy is just in over his head, why did he think that taking other people's money was a good idea to begin with?
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  30. danner

    danner Forum Resident

    Birmingham, AL
    Yeah, I'm sure you can discover some cool stuff that way, but at the end of the day, I'd rather just spend that money on records I actually know I want. I did the Matador Records single of the month thing last year, and only a couple of them really grabbed me.
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