Audio Note and ANK Fans

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by jsr, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. Raylinds

    Raylinds Martinis, music and glowing tubes

    You guys did an amazing job with the cabinets!
     
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  2. oregonalex

    oregonalex Forum Resident

    Wow, that's pretty slick. Thanks for the picture!
     
  3. Raylinds

    Raylinds Martinis, music and glowing tubes

    My 300B C-Core SET ANK mono blocks are mostly point to point with one PCB:

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  4. Raylinds

    Raylinds Martinis, music and glowing tubes

    However, my Level 5 "Mentor" Pre amp is mostly PCB:

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  5. Raylinds

    Raylinds Martinis, music and glowing tubes

    I am awaiting the arrival of a PS audio Perfectwave Memory transport. I like the idea that the music is playing out of memory rather than direct from the disc. I am researching building a truly audiophile quality server, but that is going to take some time
     
  6. Sugar Man

    Sugar Man Forum Resident

    Location:
    Hermosa Beach
    Thanks! It was NOT an easy project as a one off for my woodworker. We even hand-routered the speaker openings. Despite looking like a square box, there are a lot of dados and 45 degree angle cuts and you have to glue it all at once. As others have noted, AN cabinet tolerances are very tight, so I was super anal on the measurements, which caused quite a bit of consternation with my expert. But it all came together although it was a very stressful, but rewarding job. We tried to get the front panels CNC'd, but couldn't get anyone in LA to do a one off. C'est la vie. I've got mine in the corners now and what they do to well-recorded bass is otherworldly!
     
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  7. theprivateer

    theprivateer Active Member

    Location:
    Singapore
    I’ve been lusting after a pair of AN speakers for a while, but am curious how they will compare in the bass department to traditional large floor standers?
     
  8. bhazen

    bhazen Infinitely Baffled

    Location:
    Newcastle, WA
    Apologies is this comes off as a threadcrap but, has anyone heard AN speakers on the end of a Naim amp ...?
     
  9. theprivateer

    theprivateer Active Member

    Location:
    Singapore
    Keen to know too...that would be my combo.
     
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  10. Don Parkhurst

    Don Parkhurst Forum Resident

    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    I would suspect that it would be too bright for the AN-Es, but it might be a great setup if time is taken to match the right Naim amp to the speakers.
     
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  11. jenkovix

    jenkovix Forum Resident

    Location:
    Europe, Hungary
    I purchased an ANK 3.1 DAC and very happy with it. it is verrrry good as stock but since then I upgraded it and the performance is just stellar...
    I would buy more ANK stuff but I am located in Europe and therefore customs and VAT would come on the top of the ANK price...
     
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  12. finn

    finn Forum Resident

    I think you would be very pleased if you could arrange an audition. It's a combination mr.q has heard before and was not too unhappy with. You should try to make it happen as the "speed" of the naim electronics and the dynamic envelope they present have the potential to work with the speakers well.
     
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  13. Raylinds

    Raylinds Martinis, music and glowing tubes

    The AN speakers are very sensitive to placement, especially in regard to bass response. If you place them in corners relatively close to back and side walls the bass is excellent. If you can only place them near back walls without being near a side wall it is still pretty good but not great.
     
  14. Encore

    Encore Forum Resident

    Location:
    Denmark
    Not that combination, but for some years I had my J’s (the regular model, not SPe) hooked up to two Pathos Classic One MkIII in bridged mode, ie working as mono amps. That was quite a good combo, very musical, and definitely not too bright. In fact, I had to roll the preamp tubes in the Pathos amps to bring out more detail. I wouldn’t pair the Pathos’es with Alnico versions of AN speakers, but good SS amps shouldn’t be ruled out a priori.
     
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  15. Nascimento Brasil

    Nascimento Brasil Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sao Paulo/Brasil
    I compared the ANK L4 with Reimyo CAT 777, Shindo Aurieges, Mcintosh C2300 and Audio Research SP11, in my opinion, the ANK L4 was the fastest (best dynamic) which featured the most controlled bass and had the best sound stage, I liked it so much that I ordered with Brian, an ANK Mentor 5 and an ANK Phono L5 signature!
     
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  16. Richard Austen

    Richard Austen Forum Resident

    Location:
    Hong Kong
    That's sure a nice looking preamp.
     
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  17. JanJ

    JanJ Member

    Location:
    Finland
    I have good and bad experiences with AN kits and Brian.

    First thing to know; Only the early AN kits have some of their designs by AN UK's Andy Grove. After AN UK and AN Kits parted ways (around 2012?), AN Kits changed (had to) it's name to ANK and is using designs by ANK's Brian or somebody else, not the AN UK Andy Grove ones. And also have mostly moved to non-AN UK parts, ie. to Mundorf caps etc. So AN UK and ANK have and haven't had for a long time anything to do with each other.
    You'll get this same response if you ask AN UK about ANK and Brian.
    AN UK sells him AN UK components (the same available from ie. hificollective.co.uk or partsconnexion) like to any other buyer, but that's it.

    I've bough and built AN Kits dac 2.1 sig (with all AN Cu caps and Shinkoh 2W resisors etc.) around 2012 and while it sounded good, I preferred AN UK factory Dac 0.1x/II to it. The kit dac even in those days had completely different digital pcb to AN UK designs (while using the same AD1865) also the output board was different from the AN UK factory built one. Only the M2 power supply was pretty same as the AN UK level 2 product M2 power supply, but Brian had changed it already on 2012. And having owned both the AN kits dac 2.1, AN UK factory Dac 2.1x/II Signature and AN UK Dac 3.1x/II, there is quite a difference in the sound to the kit version although, they are from the 'same tree' so to say.
    So while ANK products surely are good on their own terms, they no longer are the 'cheap way to get AN UK sound'.

    On Brian and customer service:
    While I was building my AN Kit dac 2.1 sig, Brian was very helpful and I did find the manual quite easy to follow.
    BUT, while ago as I got the new Audio Note TT Three, which drained my hi-fi budget (but was totally worth it and is amazing!), I bought used old AN Kits L3 RIAA as an interim solution to serve as RIAA while saving up to AN UK M3 RIAA.
    The Kit RIAA I bought is from the good old days with Andry Grove designs; the original M2 power supply still in use to this day in AN UK level 2 products and the phonoboard 1:1 same as pre-2013 M3 RIAA and M3 phono (after 2013 AN UK changed M3's to use 5607 tubes, while the phonoboard layout is still exactly the same)

    Ofcourse the AN Kits L3 RIAA isn't exactly the same as AN UK M3 range as it does not have the transformer output nor the Galahad power supply, but a cap output and the formentioned M2 power supply. So basically it'd be AN UK M2,5 RIAA :)

    The earlier owner of my AN kits L3 RIAA had used some supbar resistors and caps on the phono board (and had modified heavily the M2 powersupply of it) and I wasn't completely happy with the sound, so I contacted Brian if he still would have the old phono boards (no longer used in ANK products) laying somewhere to sell me so I could build a new phono board from scratch with 'correct' AN UK components.
    He replied "yes and sure he would send me one the next day" It's been six months and he hasn't come through. I have reminded him once every passing month and he always promised to send it "the next day" then I asked if he could meanwhile send me the manual via email (as an .pdf file he has) "right away" ...and nothing. For the last two messages he failed to respond at all. And I've been keeping my cool and never complained or anything, just kind reminders, but have finally given up...

    He knows I once bought an the dac kit from him years ago, but it seems that as I'm not anymore 'a (big) paying customer' and not likely buy his kits (as everything else I have is AN UK factory built) his interest in to any kind of customer service seems to be gone.

    AN UK understands the value of customer service and that is part of the high resale value of AN UK products, you know you are not left hanging out to dry even if you've bought an old and/or used product. ANK's Brian doesn't seem to get it. So take that in consideraton if you decide to do business with him.

    btw: Only point-to-point wired board AN Kits ever _had_ was the RIAA board they got from AN UK for the AN Kits L3 RIAA (The image earlier in this thread is that). No currenct ANK products have point-to-point wired board AFAIK. (if you don't count the kit speakers x-over as one)
     
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  18. JanJ

    JanJ Member

    Location:
    Finland
    Oh, stupid me, ofcourse Kit1 and some 300B monoblocks do have some p2p-wiring.

    Another (unfortunate) note on Brian; While I did not hear back from him, I reached out to Paul of the http://www.mostlyaudio.com and asked if he'd have the build instructions of L3 RIAA (he did not) and when I told my situation with Brian, his reply was that he gave up on Brian many years ago...

    Kudos to Paul regardless having the mostlyaudio-site still up, it was good source of info at the time I was building my AN Kits dac and still is to anyone doing repairs or mods to older AN kits gear.
     

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