Bands That Got Better After Icon Left

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bloomchild, Aug 23, 2022.

  1. carlwm

    carlwm Forum Resident

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    Dyslexic fingers! :doh:

    That should say "for me", obviously!
     
  2. Siegmund

    Siegmund Vinyl Sceptic

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    I'd say it was just as good, but different.
     
  3. Fletch

    Fletch Senior Member

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    Nowhere, man.
    I was joking.
     
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  4. Bloomchild

    Bloomchild Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I'm a fan of both Richard Hell and Television, but I've heard them together. Not even a bootleg.
     
  5. Beachedboy

    Beachedboy Forum Resident

    It's frustrating, Ali and Astro had the voices but the other lot had a better sound. Although a lot of it is triggered by Jimmy on drums, guitar parts, keyboard parts and loops. I quite like that Ali is totally live.
     
  6. MonkeyTennis

    MonkeyTennis Billie Eilish style

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    Putting to one side the tragic circumstances of Richey Edwards disappearance, I do think Everything Must Go is peak Manics. Whilst I admire The Holy Bible, boy is it a tough listen.
     
  7. Lightworker

    Lightworker Forum Resident

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    They were actually very good, but more 'avant-garage'. Richard definitely had the songs and persona but his bass-playing acumen was pretty limited.
     
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  8. downer mydnyte

    downer mydnyte Forum Resident

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    This thread needs a clearer definition of "icon".
     
  9. houseofglass83

    houseofglass83 Forum Resident

    Agree. I do love the Richey-era work, especially the first two albums. Holy Bible is great but like you say it’s hard to sit thru as it’s so relentlessly dark. The album has such an eerie vibe to it like there’s darkness just flowing through the whole thing. Even some of the heaviest darkest metal doesn’t affect me the way Holy Bible does. I agree that Everything Must Go is their masterpiece. This is My Truth is a close second for me too.
     
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  10. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    i know i am in the minority, but i find 10cc without godley & creme to be a much better band.
     
  11. Brian Imig

    Brian Imig Forum Resident

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    Although I really enjoy "Electronic Meditation", I think most would agree that Tangerine Dream got "better" after the departure of Klaus Schulze
     
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  12. speedracer

    speedracer Forum Resident

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    I don't think the Supremes got "better" but sure Iove their post-Ross work.
     
  13. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    Yes. But Klaus "the icon" of Tangerine Dream? Especially in a line-up that includes Conrad Schnitzler - alongside Mr. Froese?
     
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  14. Tristero

    Tristero In possession of the future tense

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    Not really an icon, but Ian McDonald was the original leader of King Crimson on their illustrious debut, but I think they ultimately rose to greater heights after he left.
     
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  15. bob_32_116

    bob_32_116 Forum Flaneur

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    The Tokens, after Neil Sedaka!
     
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  16. Brian Imig

    Brian Imig Forum Resident

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    Very good point. I guess I wasn't thinking of when icon status was achieved. So in the case of "having icon status" while in the band, my point is indeed pointless :doh:
     
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  17. RobCos02330

    RobCos02330 Forum Resident

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    This one could go in the “unpopular opinions” thread, but I would still agree!
     
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  18. pocofan

    pocofan Senior Member

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    Imho Dickey Betts is the most melodic guitar players EVER. When he and the ABB split I thought they were crazy. Don’t know the reason for it. But after a few years I realized that the ABB went back to their roots which I liked. The post reunion albums had some songs that were vintage Allmans. But a lot of it wasn’t. I know many will disagree with me. But that final lineup was incredible.
     
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  19. ThunderDan

    ThunderDan Forum Resident

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    They say, Black Sabbath got better with Dio instead of Ozzy.
    I don't agree though.
     
  20. Neither do I.
     
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  21. Bloomchild

    Bloomchild Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Do you have a suggestion?
     
  22. TwentySmallCigars

    TwentySmallCigars Forum Resident

    i·con /ˈīˌkän/
    A person or thing widely admired especially for having great influence or significance in a particular sphere.
     
  23. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Dude/man

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    Mark Bowen?
     
  24. Bloomchild

    Bloomchild Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Lol that's cheating. If you're gonna use the dictionary definition then no definition is needed.
     
  25. RVA_101

    RVA_101 Hoops McCann

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    Definitely Stones after Brian Jones

    I wouldn't go as far as to say post-Green Fleetwood Mac, primarily because I much prefer Green era FM, but I will say Bob Welch was more than a worthy replacement, that whole middle era where he and Christine carried the songwriting was actually a fantastic period that turned out some excellent records (primarily Bare Trees and Mystery to Me).
     
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