BEACH BOYS in early 1983 .....

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  1. FloydMaui

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    I've been on this forum for most of three years now ….. It certainly has opened my mind to a lot of music and sparked many deeper interests and pursuits ….

    ….. one of them being the Beach Boys.


    I attended a Beach Boys concert on Feb. 27, 1983 when I was 17 and a high-school senior…. We didn't get a whole lot of concerts, and this was on a Sunday afternoon at an unusual venue that was closer to home than usual, a small-ish stadium used mostly for high-school football and soccer games …. so, I went to it .....


    What did I know about the Beach Boys then ? Not so much, really, but of course their greatest hits were pretty much an inescapable part of American life ….. They sure seemed like "oldies" even then *…. I'm pretty sure I knew the names "Wilson" and "Mike Love" but I doubt I spent any time thinking about who exactly was on stage that day .…. Brian ? Dennis ? not really a concern to this typical Zep/Floyd/Beatles/Stones/Who/Jimi/Doors/Rush/AC-DC/VanHalen kid ….. I just cruised about and found people I knew, got close to the stage for a while or two …..

    ..... and afterwards ..... just didn't give it a whole lotta thought ….. lost the ticket-stub too, and the exact date with it.



    …..Until more recently ….. when I started to wonder things like "hmmm, who was there ?? was Dennis Wilson at that concert ? Wasn't he kicked out of the band ? he drowned later that year...."



    ☆ well, I recently found a few photos from it on the internet ! :pineapple:



    Yep, Dennis was there, in his shirtless glory ! but I still don't know if he played drums or sang a song that day …. sadly, I just don't remember.


    So .... I'm putting this out there to see what the experts here can say about what was going on with the Beach Boys at that time…. inter-band dynamics and such …. Dennis' status ….. Brian's status .....

    I know now that they were mid-way through their then-longest album hiatus (1980-1985) ….. When had Brian last appeared on stage with them ? and who were the sidemen, what were their stories ?

    Also, this was just 6 weeks before Reagan's Interior Secretary James Watt banned them from a Washington D.C. July 4th event ..... "Rock acts are the wrong element" ...... ridiculous !
    When the Beach Boys Faced a Surprising July 4 Ban


    * and about them being "oldies" ….. the five principals averaged only about 39 years then ! :laugh:




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  2. FloydMaui

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    I have that recording from Jamaica in Nov. 1982, that's as close as I've gotten to the show I was at ….




    I'm aware of a recording from Pomona CA in September '83, would like to find that one and/or others from earlier in 1983. Recommendations ?
     
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  4. jwb1231970

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    It’s cool you got to see them with Dennis (wonder if Brian was there too). But always bitter sweet when it’s after the fact...you appreciate them now but not necessarily then. there’s no going back....unless...someone has the show in video - now that would be cool
     
  5. smitquest

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    even beyond the live performances, this is an era which is usually glossed over in the histories....what WAS going on? carl and dennis were in and out, brian was in bad shape, but....was there sporadic recording? were carl & denny doing anything together? always curious...

    (great pics, by the way!)

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  6. dgp17

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    Great pix. Some of those must have been among the last of Dennis, sadly. Surprise surprise, there's a pic of Bruce adjusting his microphone.
     
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  7. They did themselves no favors with the style of clothes they wore on stage. Maybe for a round or two of golf, but on stage?
     
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  8. Daniel Plainview

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  9. Psychedelic Good Trip

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    I look at these pics of Dennis and it kills me to know he would be gone by late December of the same year 1983. Good to see these pics though. Years of the fast life have caught up to him even before these photos. Great thread.

    R.I.P. Dennis
     
  10. jwb1231970

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    This was absolutely a ridiculous entrance to the stage
     
  11. jwb1231970

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    Agreed - as good as their music was and is they never as a band were cool in terms of what was going on
     
  12. noname74

    noname74 Allegedly Canadian

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    It’s an official Beach Boys era called, “The Shorts Years”. :winkgrin:
     
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  13. egebamyasi

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    I believe that was the silly hat era.
     
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  14. HILO

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    Let us know if you find a link to the Pomona '83 concert.I have had a recording of the Jamaica concert that is one of my favorites.
     
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  15. Psychedelic Good Trip

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    Interesting time to look back at Beach Boys 1980-1984. I mean all these years later.
     
  16. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke You shoulda heard just what I seen

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    Same thing has happened to me, I have been digging in deep to The Beach Boys since joining this forum last year. I had been an early stuff/Pet Sounds fan since early 90's...I did have the "Classics selected by Brian" CD, and those later cuts on it seeped in a little more with each listen over the years. Joining the forum last year sparked my interest in checking into more of the post-PS stuff, and wow, what an eye-opener. Love that the Smiley Smile through Holland run. And just picked up a copy on the first box set....damn.
    Seeing the dynamic of the band, the brothers in particular, is fascinating to me. I have gained a whole new appreciation for Dennis and Carl (what an eye-opener "POB" is). Saw Brian and his band with Al & Blondie back in January, it was one of the most exciting concerts I ever attended. What a sound and a presentation. I hope Brian was glad to be there, it is hard to tell. (I believe he wants to be there.)
    You got to see them all, lucky you! I hear ya on the "can't remember much" though. When Steve Earle opened for a Dylan show I attended in the late 80's, I couldn't tell you a thing about Steve Earle from that night, but about 7 years later I became a huge fan of his, and wishing I had paid more attention back then.
    The pictures you posted are awesome. Look at Dennis, he almost seems like a man possessed. Cool and sad....
     
  17. PacificOceanBlue

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    According to this database, Brian would have been present (he was allegedly living in Hawaii at the time receiving treatment from Landy):
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    Dennis didn't get kicked out of the band until the fall. One suspects had he survived the events of December 28, he would have been allowed back in to the band at some point in '84, presuming he agreed to rehab and other concessions.
     
  18. JuanTCB

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    Damn - Dennis looks kind of rough there but he's the picture of health compared to how he looked even 4 or 5 months later. I didn't realize how quickly he spiraled out of control in '83.
     
  19. Brian Doherty

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    What great pix! I honestly has a vision of Denny in his last year that was a lot less robust and buff than that. Sort of saw him drunk-bloated. Interesting to see not the case. Such good photos!
     
  20. Craig Slowinski

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    Dennis was with them pretty consistently that year until September. Brian was indeed in Hawaii with Landy's team but played only one show with them in Maui. Judging by the pictures he was not at this show. If you have the Jamaica November '82 soundboard recording, then you have a show with an identical band lineup to the February '83 show you saw: Dennis, Carl, Mike, Al, and Bruce, with Jeff Foskett singing Brian's high parts and playing guitar (he's in one of those pics), Billy Hinsche on piano, Ed Carter on bass (also in one of those pics), Mike Meros on organ & synth, and Mike Kowalski on percussion & drums. All those guys were longtime sidemen. Foskett was in Brian's band until about six years ago, then went back to the Beach Boys, but has had some health issues and sadly may have lost his singing voice. Billy was of course part of Dino Desi and Billy and Carl Wilson's brother in law. Ed Carter and Mike Kowalski started with the band in 1968 and stayed for decades. Mike Meros sadly passed away around 2007. There are several circulating shows from the first half of 1983. The September Pomona show you speak of is historically significant, as it's the last time Dennis appeared with the band (no, Brian wasn't at that show, either).
     
  21. skyblue17

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    Cool, thanks for sharing! Things must have been interesting at this point. Al looks great, though!
     
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  22. PacificOceanBlue

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    That is what is interesting because this show is the Maui concert, which Brian allegedly played, yet based on the photos, he doesn't appear to be on stage (although to be fair, there are a number of angles not visible).
     
  23. ShadowNoze

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    According to Ian Rusten and Jon Stebbins' "Beach Boys In Concert" book, Brian played the show, but didn't play any shows in March or April.
     
  24. bRETT

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    There is a clip (not dated) of Dennis looking really bad in the "American Band" documentary, struggling through "You Are So Beautiful." It's pretty awful.

    I'm sure the shows could still be wonderful, but to my mind the early 80s was the saddest era of the Beach Boys. Dennis sinking, Carl forced out for a year, Brian seemingly beyond fixing. I think it's safe to say that nobody at the the time saw Brian's (and the BB's) comeback coming.

    To my mind the turning point was "Getcha Back." Not a perfect record, but an enjoyable one, and a comeback hit with Brian singing. Set the stage for better (and worse) things to come.
     
  25. Folknik

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    There's some video footage in the documentary The Beach Boys: An American Band that I think may have been a bit later than this concert. Dennis sang "You Are So Beautiful" but he shouldn't have. He looked rough and beaten down and he had totally wrecked his once beautiful voice with substance abuse.
     
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