Beatles and Beach Boys on DVD-A?

>>There is a post over at the BSN board that indicated that EMI may be releasing Beatles and Beach Boys titles in DVD-A early next year.


That would certainly go a long way in making DVD-A the winning format. Just The Beatles name would do it. The Beach Boys would be an extra gift

Has anyone else heard this?


Mikey

 

Rumour says "Pet Sounds" before the end of this year....

 

>>>Yes, Pet Sounds" I could see very soon, after all, its all mixed. Its just a matter or manufacturing it.

I dont think they would issue that in a 5.1 remix, tho.

 

Yeah, unfortunately there WILL be a 5.1 remix. When I get a chance I'll post a link to an article on the remix process. I believe SURF'S UP is also on the way.

By the way, there is no official word on the Beatles -- I'm almost positive this is a complete rumor. I hope I'm wrong though.



- Gabe

 

The average customer...of which, there are none here in this forum...has trouble enough working their CD player, let alone upgrading to SACDHDCDDVA !

Until there is significant penetration of SACD players, into the customers homes, any Beatle release in these formats will be pending.

And even if they do release them in that format before significant penetration is made into the consumer market, that doesn't mean SACD is a signficant consumer format.

Just because the Stones, YES, and CCR releases are being made in SACD, that doesn't mean that it's a viable consumer format. Unfortunately, people who purchase SACD players and CD's, in this forum, are NOT the trendsetters for the whole consumer market! All it proves, is that people here have discerning music tastes.

 

Dammmmit, I have enough problems keeping a good, stable 2 channel stereo setup running and we get a 5.1 DVD mix of Brian Wilson's pet??? No way I'm gonna get a player that can play DVD-A's in addition to the Sony DVD/SACD player I have now. How am I gonna end up with 5 Dynaco MK IV's when I can't use the 2 I've got? Say Steve, do you have a multichannel setup going at your pad, or do you hightail over to a studio for a surround sound demo???

 

I would seriously doubt this. DVD-A is basically dead in the water. My local retailer brought in one of each Warner DVD-A title back in March and has yet to sell one title ! He's not ordering any more and is returning the ones he has, or what he's allowed to return anyway. Actually, he did sell one, the Rumours DVD-A, to me, and compared to my old LP, it sounds disgusting.

 

Some Beach Boys hits in 5.1, including some from Pet Sounds I have on "Endless Harmony" which is taked on as bonuses. The documentary is well worth the $20 ave price and includes some great interviews from Carol Kaye, Hal, Brian, well...just a knockout cast.

From memory, there are 3 DD 5.1 songs to listen to in surround. One is from Pet. Pretty SURE it's "God Only Knows".

Oh wait, here:

California Girls, Kiss Me Baby, God Only Knows, Surf's Up, Long Promised Road, Sail On Sailor, Do It Again.

Sadly, I sincerely agree that any more DVD-A's might not be a wonderful idea.

 

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In the last issue of ICE there was a large ad from some company (sorry I don't have it anymore) that was announcing some new DVD-A titles. At the bottom was a small blurb about SURF'S UP coming in that format in the fall.

Personally, I hope SACD is the winning format. I have both kinds of players, but as a purist when it comes to my audio there is something WRONG about having to turn on my TV to get an album to play.

 

If the rumour is true, I'll bet anything we're gonna see the Beach Boys releases out there first. Seems like EMI/Capitol can just about do whatever they wish with the BB catalogue.

The Beatles are a different matter altogether. I read once that part of the settlement deal with Capitol in '89 specified that any releases future formats after that date required renegotiations with The Beatles and Apple.

And that boys and girls, could take a long, long,long time.

 

Johnny is right.


EMI, as we have seen, has no problem issuing and re-issing The Beach Boys catalog, in any format that will bring them some income.

First they did the individual LPs on CD.
Then they did the two-fers
Then they re-issued the individual Lps on Cd AGAIN
Then they brought back the two-fers

Now they can remix it all into 5.1 and sell it to us again.

Boy, those EMI guys are crafty.

 

If Capital/EMI has half a brain thy are going to wait and see how well the Stones SACD's sell first before they try and get the Beatles released on SACD.

 

I agree that it could take a VERY long time to get the Beatles catalogue out in a remastered high-res format, be it SACD or DVD-A. Heck, we've been waiting many years now for decent CD remasters, let alone newly remastered versions coming out on one of the two new digital playback formats which are both a) not anywhere established enough in the marketplace and b) could both die a slow painful death anyway.

The one thing I'm not 100% sure about is who owns the Beatles master tapes. I always thought these are still owned by EMI but the remaining Beatles (and the representatives of John and George) have to approve any proposed releases. Is this correct? I believe the deal the Beatles did with EMI at the end of the 1980s (after they'd finished all the squabbling and lawsuits against each other) gave them control of output but not ownership of the master tapes. Then again I could be wrong about that.

Personally, I don't care for either SACD or DVD-A at the moment. To me, this is the VHS vs Betamax war of the early 1980s all over again. Whilst I have no doubts that both might offer potential sonic improvements over good ol' redbook CD, I have in the last 12 months purchased a new CD player and a DVD-V player. The last thing I need at the moment is the expense of buying yet another piece of hardware - I have too many boxes in the lounge as it is

I cannot see either format catching on for the mass-market consumer. Most people I know don't even know what SACD or DVD-A is, let alone care about it. For the vast majority CD does the job of music reproduction more than adequately. Whilst many of us on this forum (myself included) also gain considerably enjoyment from vinyl, when the CD was introduced the humble old LP never really stood a chance remaining as a viable mass-market product. Vinyl has now, as I predicted it would, become a market for the diehard, discerning fans of the format (such as myself) and - for the most part - a format catered for by specialist and reissue labels.

What I'm getting at here is that ultimately it was a lot easier for the record companies to sell CD to the mass market target audience in the 1980s. For most people, the difference between CD and SACD/DVD-A is not significant enough to justify purchasing new hardware and re-purchasing existing CD collections on some new-fangled format.

If you ask me which format will win (if they don't die a death first that is), I think it has to be SACD. The huge multibillion $ marketing machine that is SONY is just so powerful that I can't see how it would let itself lose out to DVD-A.

IF the high-res formats are here to stay, I think the future lies in the SACD hybrid disc. Now this is a good idea because it meets the needs of both the average consumer (CD) and the audiophile (SACD). As for me, I will be staying away from both formats for the time being.

 

I feel the same way, but then again, who of us here thought we'd see the Stones remastered, on SACD no less?

Well, the thing is, SACD doesn't *have* to take off - it could die right now, but all those upcoming Stones discs would STILL be playable in the billions of CD players around the world.

Of course, methinks DVD-A isn't really the way to go, because even if you can play them in your DVD video player, that still leaves a lot of places you *can't* play them (in your car, on your secondary system, in your Discman, etc...).

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

 

Agreed. This is exactly why I made the comment that the SACD hybrid disc is potentially the way forward, catering for Joe Public and audiophile alike.

 

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>>>>>>Cant really say I blame you, big guy.
I, myself have not replaced my high end DVD Video player with a DVD-A model because of this nonsense with the analog 5.1 inputs, which my receiver doesnt have. So, I listen to multicannel DVD-A disks in the downconverted mode, which still sounds pretty good to my ears.

I'll do that untill things shake out a bit more. This nonsense with no digital 5.1 input is ridiculous.

Nice post, tho!! )

 

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