Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by SKATTERBRANE, Mar 18, 2018.
Are you including the modern floorstanders in that statement as well ?
I like rock music foremost. However on my Fortes jazz and classical sound great. And even Led Zeppelin sounds great at moderate to low levels. "Klipsch, not just for troglodytes anymore."
My only experience with Klipsch speakers is the Heresys that I have had for 30 years. They are great Rock speakers. Would love a pair of Cornwalls.
Modern Klipsch floorstanders are rock-oriented too but are versatile speakers. Glad you enjoy your Heresys. I don't doubt they rock, for they're Klipsch !
That's too bad. I guess there's a good reason why Belles don't get a lot of talk or universal accolades like K-Horns & Cornies always do. You live. You learn. Next toy!
And you can pry my Crites hot-rodded Chorus IIs and Cornwall IIs outta my cold, dead hands. I'm done and done looking for new loudspeakers.
I am blown away by my Cornwalls every damn time I listen to them!
I went from an upgraded KLF-20 pair to KI-396-SMA-II and it was a huge jump.
I have heard Cornwalls and they sound great. I have owned Belle Klipsch(brand new...1996...$3500) and they were the worst speakers that I have ever heard. I hated them. I owned 2 pairs of KG4's which I enjoyed. I bought my brother a pair of new Forte's for his 60th birthday and he loves them. The Belles were made for center channel use originally. They were never meant to have strong bass and may have very well been 'voiced' for center channel use.
I felt similar when I bought the LaScalas, they had a “thin” sound to them. I exchanged them and purchased new Klipschorns and was amazed how much smoother and better they sounded across the frequency band with a far superior bottom end. I wouldn’t change them unless I had to.
It is worthy of noting that the horns and drivers are exactly the same components as are in the larger K-horns.
But, as you say, the sound is completely different.
Sum product of great design and application I guess.
True, but all the components that are used in the La Scala's were originally designed for the K-horns.
Putting them in the La Scala cabinet was an afterthought for a portable P.A. application. NOT home stereo use!
The bass horns of the Belles and LaScala's are much shorter than those of the Klipschorns which with corner placement use the walls as extensions of the bass horn. Also, the Belles have a shorter midrange horn than the other two models.
Well I solved my problem. I now have ProAc Response D2 speakers which mate quite well with my ENTEC SW-1 subwoofers. Oh what a relief it is. Sound is so holographic one could virtually walk among the individual performers in the recording. There is detail without fatigue, or should I say without PAIN.
And what is even better, I don't have to try a long list of amps, preamps, cables, sources, or fiddle and fret about placement and endure all the apologetics. They just sound AWESOME with just simple setup and a variety of electronics that I have lying around.
If OP recapped crossovers and put in new mid and tweeter drivers, then they're not really the same speakers as original model, are they? They'd be completely different than an original Belle. They're not really Belles anymore, right? Is that way they didn't sound very good?
Well the mods slightly improved the Belles, but NOTHING could get rid of the resonance problem. It is the bass bin that is the culprit.
Yes and no. Crites mods aren’t making them fundamentally different.
I have read that the new La Scala II speakers address the bass bin resonance inherent in the older La Scala, Belle and K-Horn. I wish I could audition a pair.
I think you are still better off with the Cornwall's or the Forte's.
La Scalla's are just not the right design for home speakers, the Cornwall's and Forte's are.
I have been running Forte Is. But I wanted to experiment with bi-amping so I put my Heresy IIIs in the system just today:
Here are my Forte I:
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