Best Sounding Beatles CDs

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by scocs, Jul 20, 2007.

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  1. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    It just sounds clearer to me. Better bass definition... sort of like the difference between a US pressing and a Canadian pressing of something that was recorded in the US. I will not use the term "lower generation master tape" or anything like that.

    For example, I have Nesmith's Infinite Rider on the Big Dogma, US and Canadian LP pressings. The US is far superior....

    Don't worry about that "challenging" thing... no one can tell anyone else what they hear in their own system! :)
     
  2. johnny33

    johnny33 New Member

    Location:
    usa
    Im going to have to do a blind test with that japanese Rubber Soul and US Rubber Soul. See which one sounds less crappy lol.

    Seriously though, my girlfriend loves to make me look stupid on these tests so it will be honest at least. :p
     
  3. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    Incidentally, the differences that I hear are not huge! I could happily live with the Canadian CD....
     
  4. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    They shouldn't sound different as they have the same mastering. Here's Steve's post from earlier in the thread..

    JPN CD pressings are the same as any other country, sorry. Same PCM master.
     
  5. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

    Location:
    Milton, Canada
    Yep, and I can't see a "better pressing plant" making a difference to a bunch of ones and zeros.

    But hey, people hear what they wanna hear. Maybe the Japanese plants run green marker around each disc!:D
     
  6. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    It's possible I guess for a country to run their digital Beatles' clone through an analog board, re-EQ it and make the CD from that.

    IN ANY CASE, they are still using what was provided for them digitally from EMI, UK.
     
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  7. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    Possible but the JPN discs are digitally identical to their US counterparts. If they had ran them through an analog board and EQ'd them they would not be digitally identical. The US discs and the JPN discs (save for the early AR) null out..
     
  8. tootull

    tootull Looking through a glass onion

    Location:
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    I'll take it back :laugh: :ignore:
     
  9. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Maybe the Obie-Wan makes it sound better..
     
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  10. tootull

    tootull Looking through a glass onion

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    re-EQed it!
     
  11. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    John, I'm talking about discs that have the same mastering. If the discs have the same mastering it doesn't matter when they were made. The Sgt Pepper CD I bought in 1993 at the local indie store will sound the same as the one I order from Amazon today..
     
  12. reverber

    reverber Senior Member

    Location:
    Lawrence KS, USA
    Asking a question, not suggesting anything (as I don't know):
    Could it be that the Japanese discs are manufactured to closer tolerances, reducing the number of read errorswhen the CD is played back. I guess a way to test this would be to try the null test on recordings of the analog outputof the two discs.
    Or, somebody with a Squeezebox (or something similar) could compare the two versions through the device, effectively eliminating any error correction done by the CD player.
    BTW, I love using my Squeezebox to compare different pressings of CDs.

    Cody
     
  13. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    I think that's a good idea but IMO people are just hearing differences that are not there. It happens to the best of us. Famous recording engineers have reported hearing differences when adjusting the EQ only to discover that the EQ wasn't even patched in.
     
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  14. tim_neely

    tim_neely Forum Hall Of Fame

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    I don't know where that theory that there was any Beatles involvement whatsoever in the compilation of 1962-1966 and 1967-1970 comes from, but I've seen it more than once. As far as I know, there was no Beatles involvement whatsoever with those compilations.

    They were compiled in 1973, in America, by ABKCO, which was still the Beatles' management group in the U.S., and the original release used American masters (with the possible exception of "From Me to You," which saw its first U.S. stereo release on 1962-1966). Thus, everything (else) that had only come out in rechanneled stereo in America was in rechanneled stereo on 1962-1966 and 1967-1970.

    The albums were released in the U.S. several weeks before they came out in England; April 2 was the American release date, April 20 in the U.K., which speaks to the American origin of the albums.

    The albums filled a gap in the Beatles' LP discography because there were no legitimate career-spanning Beatles "greatest hits" collections available in the States (A Collection of Beatles Oldies was never released in the U.S., and Hey Jude was more like the later Past Masters series in collecting singles that had not appeared on LP). Also, they were put together in part as a response to several bootleg compilations that were sold through magazine and TV ads in the United States, the most notable of which was The Beatles Alpha Omega.
     
  15. bhazen

    bhazen GOO GOO GOO JOOB

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    I honestly had no idea who sequenced those albums; the "safe" song selection suggested to me that some EMI (or, as tim neely suggests, ABKCO) bean-counter was responsible.

    I like Neil Aspinall. :)

    An aside: does anyone here recall a TV segment around the time Double Fantasy came out, that (among other things) had Lennon in a NYC record shop, picking up a copy of the "blue" album and looking surprised?
     
  16. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    Toronto
    Steve, you know it's the Fairy Dust that they use!

    :laugh:
     
  17. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    I can see that!

    BTW, we're talking about the Japanese first pressings vs. all others? Not the current Japanese releases?
     
  18. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    Doesn't matter. All JPN discs come from the same PCM master.
     
  19. Murray Wilson?:)
     
  20. JLGB

    JLGB Senior Member

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    D.R.
    How about the "fairy dust" on my Toshiba AB (not the first one) but the 87 or after one?
     
  21. bhazen

    bhazen GOO GOO GOO JOOB

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    While we're on the subject, what audio qualities make the Toshiba "black triangle" Abbey Road so desirable?
     
  22. BeatleJWOL

    BeatleJWOL Carnival of Light enjoyer... IF I HAD ONE

    I've heard that it's the bass response for one thing - the bass on Come Together is supposed to knock you out of your seat.
     
  23. phallumontis

    phallumontis Active Member

    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    It's the only existing CD pressing of the album that is a flat transfer from the master tapes. To me, every instrument is flawlessly represented and the vocals are warm and natural. It sounds purty.
     
  24. More seriously: maybe the Japanese CDs are enhanced with that special green ink around the edges? :D
     
  25. Adam9

    Adam9 Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй.

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    Toronto, Canada
    :righton: :laugh:
     
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