Best sounding Man Who Sold the World on vinyl?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluenexus, Nov 25, 2011.

  1. bluenexus

    bluenexus Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Despite owning this album for years I've only recently come to properly appreciate it. I hear it as Bowie's first glam record, and one of his most cohesive. Almost all of the themes and obsessions that show up on the subsequent albums appear here in early form.

    At the moment I've got the Ryko CD, which is a bit two-dimensional and bass-shy (worth keeping for the great bonus tracks, though!). I've also got an early UK RCA pressing, albeit in pretty poor shape.

    What's the general opinion of this album on vinyl? Should I find another UK copy in better condition? Or the Japanese RCA? How do they compare with the earlier Mercury pressing, the US cartoon sleeve? (I'd love the UK dress cover but the prices on those are absurd.)
     
  2. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Senior Member

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    Seattle
    Yes. The US you get for the cover and/or as a Bowie collector - not for the sound.
     
  3. Hi Five

    Hi Five Forum Resident

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    "Granadaland"
    I have the UK RCA Victor with the black and white cover.

    Sound quality is great, althought it can sound muddy sometimes, but I think that is the way it was mixed in general. But overall I'd say its one of the best sounding vinyls I own.

    The bass guitar on Width of a Circle is phenomenal! It comes out of the speakers and punches you in the gut!
     
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  4. Stump

    Stump Forum Resident

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    Adelaide Australia
    I have a few different copies and the AU20 Ryko sounds the best to me.Vinyl would sound nice with a expensive turn table.
     
  5. Linto

    Linto Mayor of Simpleton

    How can it sound muddy and be one of the best sounding.?

    And please, Vinyl or Vinyls is not a proper noun. They are called records.

    thanks
     
  6. Hi Five

    Hi Five Forum Resident

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    I presume that was the way Visconti mixed it or maybe I just have a worn vinyl oops 'record' :D (happy now) or maybe a poor matrix number.

    But considering certain sounds stand out and certain other sounds can sound a bit muddy at the same time in a song, I'm leaning towards the 'mix' theory.

    But overall it sounds mighty fine :)
     
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  7. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect The prose and the passion

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  8. bluenexus

    bluenexus Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Thanks for the replies - looks like I'm on the hunt for a clean-playing copy of the UK.
     
  9. Paul K

    Paul K Senior Member

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    Toronto, Canada
    US original sounds comparable to the UK second issue...
     
  10. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

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    I've heard a high res needledrop of the original UK, and I'm sticking with my US RCA Dynaflex copy.
     
  11. Jim B.

    Jim B. Senior Member

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    UK
    This album was released before Bowie got massive so I'd imagine the initial UK run was pretty low, as he wasn't selling many records at this time. But they must have made a lot more after Ziggy so is there much difference?
     
  12. howlinrock

    howlinrock Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    SF Bay Area
    I still have an original on Mercury from when it flopped. The Visconti Bass is so loud in overkill. I never bought another copy to compare and heard it's was bootleg years later. I learned to appreciate this LP years later.
     
  13. npc210

    npc210 Forum Resident

    I like my Dynaflex U.S. second pressing (1972, with black cover instead of drawing) but have nothing to compare it to.
     
  14. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Senior Member

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    The difference in the second UK & US RCA's is mainly in the resolution. The UK has more presence and is a bit smoother + cleaner in presentation, noticeable at the top and bottom frequencies (because the tape used was undoubtedly of lower generation) but its not 'head over heels' better sounding overall.
     
  15. I have the 3 sided Ryko Vinyl and it sounds wonderful :righton:

    The only other copy I've had, is the US mercury which indeed sounds bad.
     
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  16. tkl7

    tkl7 Agent Provocateur

    Location:
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    I have a US tan label RCA and it sounds pretty good to me. Never heard the UK, so I can't compare.
     
  17. KeninDC

    KeninDC Hazy Cosmic Jive

    Location:
    Virginia, USA
    The UK RCA, orange label LP w/ the B&W cover (and "1E" as the last letters in the deadwax) is a keeper.

    Just a tad more clarity than the US RCA pressing.
     
  18. Jose Jones

    Jose Jones Outstanding Forum Member

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    Detroit, Michigan
    I have this as well, orange-label DynaFlex, black cover, poster! :righton:
     
  19. floweringtoilet

    floweringtoilet Forum Resident

    One thing to be aware of is that the U.S. Mercury version (with cartoon cover) was widely bootlegged in the 70s after Ziggy became a hit. The bootlegs are probably more common than genuine Mercury pressings. I would be careful of those unless you know how to identify the fakes. A genuine US Mercury most likely won't be cheap either.

    U.S. RCA pressings are cheap and plentiful and are a safer bet.
     
  20. howlinrock

    howlinrock Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    I have a original Mercury that I bought when it first came out. My question is how can you tell the difference between the original and a fake one?
     
  21. tkl7

    tkl7 Agent Provocateur

    Location:
    Lewis Center, OH
    If the matrix info in the deadwax is handwritten, it's fake. If it is stamped, it is real.
     
  22. funknik

    funknik He who feels it.

    Location:
    Gorham, ME, USA
    Is this the early 80's US pressing with the black 'kick' cover? Matrixes end in 4 and 5?
     
  23. tkl7

    tkl7 Agent Provocateur

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    Lewis Center, OH
    I will check the Matrixes, but it is the Kick cover. The tan RCA label began use in the mid 1970s, so I don't know if it is a late 70s or early 80s pressing, as The Man Who Sold The World continued to be in print for 18 years. Someone with more knowledge on the Bowie discography may be able to answer...
     
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  24. funknik

    funknik He who feels it.

    Location:
    Gorham, ME, USA
    great, thanks - that answers my question, I think.
     
  25. funknik

    funknik He who feels it.

    Location:
    Gorham, ME, USA
    Mine is actually a black label with the dog & victrola . . . looks like '77 or later
     

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