Its inner'esting, to me at least, one of Howard's last statements to Jimmy was "You cant help it. You were born this way"...brings up the eternal question: Are some people born evil? Not asking for a discussion about this question. But it is the same type questions BB brought to peoples minds: Give circumstances would I..could I..be a Walter White?
You mean all six episodes as a whole? I think it was terrific. I think they could have gotten the Nacho thing over in two episodes and brought more Jimmy to Saul development sooner and did a few Slippin Jimmy things to develop the inner Saul more detailed. But we have 6 more to go, so maybe there is plently of time for that. I am not a fan of the PI being a plant by Jimmy and Kim. Too easy a device. But no biggy. Being nitpicky. All in all Id give Seasons 1-3 a 10. 4 a 7.5, 5 an 8 and Sesason 6 so far about an 8.5-ish. I dont think anyone can deny Episode 7 as anything but top notch. Though Im sure someone will
That isnt the Gilligan way. I think when people get over the propped up Howard sympathy play that the writers did, folks will think back about how Howard was and accept it with a "Well, too bad he died. And no he didnt deserve being killed, but he was a jerk wasnt he?" I said earlier that if they killed off Howard not many would ultimately care. I think this will be the case. Its like with Nacho..in the end I really dont miss the guy. Or feel very sorry for him. He chose what he did. He made his bed. He got involved with the wrong side of life. And somone down the line will get killed in that circumstance. Nacho was the one. What is kind of sad is while Nachos death served a purpose...Howards served nothing. He left dead with a bad rep, lost his peers respect, failed marriage and went out with no real legacy. Sad ending that has no redeeming qualities to it at all.
I thought the episode was great. I know they didn't plan on this one being a "mid-season finale", but after three weeks of less-than-thrilling setup episodes, which were rather disappointing (though I will still argue they'll all seem more crucial as the story unfolds), we needed one with some intensity and some action. We got both, and we got a bomb dropped on us. When all is said and done about Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, the end of S5 ep7 will be one of many pivotal moments that people remember.
We still don't know that for certain, though. If the story of his dad is truly over, then it's safe to say that Nacho's death did serve a purpose and he died something of a hero. If the back half of this season includes a terrible fate for his dad, then he died for nothing.
Yeah that would kind of suck wouldnt it? But it would mirror BB in which pretty much everyone ended up with zip as far as emptiness.
Are you calling me a "screwball"? I *might* have to report you to the moderators... even though my wife has called me that 50 times already. I think we are talking about different issues. I'm not pointing out Howard to be a saint or courageous or whatever you've projected on me. I'm just stating that his previous wrongs don't fit the Kimmy/Jimmy retaliation of drugging/lies/deceit under the guise of some bull@#$% "greater good" for the "underrepresented." In addition, Kim felt no qualms pushing Jimmy to remain "friends" with the cartel in the midst of all of this -- that right there tells me there are larger mental problems at work.
In case somone missed the tiny teaser trailer for the second half... Sounds like Jimmy is taking a bath. I hear water splashes. He is talking to someone. Kim Id suppose.
Side observation: The subplot with the German worker who Lalo ambushed was handled all off-screen... I'm guessing that guy was tortured and ultimately dispatched with... and then Lalo flew back to New Mexico (I'm guessing in the luggage compartment or under the wing or some super-villain-type scenario so as not to be seen...). I'm actually glad whatever follow-up sequence involving that unfortunate worker was left on the proverbial cutting-room floor.
Well technically I said writing off the legit read of the show as Jimmy and Kim taking control using questionable methods as being all about finding Rhea Seehorn attractive...yeah, that's kinda screwball. We are because you're not looking at how we arrived here with regard to the HHM roots of the show. You did relate strongly to Howard, which isn't a great look. He had his eyes dilated and came off like a paranoid schizophrenic, but in my read of the show he deserved it. And as a result of this, he would have had a comfy retirement and stopped practicing law, which was probably a good idea anyway. So I rather like the way Jimmy and Kim targeted him, in the context of the TV show. If it was real life maybe I'd be more amenable to your view, but such characters would next exist in real life--not like this! She begrudgingly gave up nagging Jimmy about what he should do, the way I see it. And Jimmy was never totally honest with her.
The scene in which Howard gets shot and killed also reminds me of the Great Train Heist in BB's "Dead Freight" The ultimate meth plan is successful and all three are celebrating. Just like Kim and Jimmy did. Then the unwanted guest shows up, the kid on the bike (mirrors Howard) and things get very serious. The unthinkable then happens as Todd (Lalo in BCS) kills the child (Howard in BCS) Best laid plans with terrible outcomes that helps futher form Jesse as a character.
Well we do have that little teaser where it suggests that Gene may have came back to ABQ. Kim (?) in the hoodie perhaps leaving a signal drop on the pole for Gene to see in order to help hide him? Have no idea. Just spitballing again. My spitballs usually have just left a mess on the walls of the thread though lol. Not as big of a mess as Howard left on that picture that Kim and Jimmy were putting the grift plans against Howard on the back of though...
You wronged someone and caused them to be in wrong place , wrong time cause of it, you wouldn't blame yourself ? Ok, that's you. They don't feel any responsibility, they are worse people than we thought.
I have a feeling that the teaser is a misdirection. The black and white is a Gene scene thing yes. But would Kim really still be in that same apt with the same exact furniture 10 or so years later? I guess it is possible bit unlikely. Dont think we can read much into that trailer on second thought.
You know there's a big difference, your children being over wouldn't be out of the ordinary this was ONLY cause of their actions. The writers intention was for their to be a cause and effect, and presumably for them to be changed by this. Your opinion , and you can keep on having affection for Kim, but she deserves whatever is coming her way. As for the post about this episode, Pt. 1 - this one to me was ok if you wanted more of the Howard plot, otherwise the scene with Cliff, and the end are only stand out parts to me. Episodes 1-3 strong, the last 3 very little to offer so I'd say meh on this season. Still hope last 6 are more compelling.
They don't do anything BUT misdirection. In context, the scene probably cuts to Herve Villechaize jumping into the jacuzzi with a knife.
Still processing that episode. We all were probably 50/50 on Howard dying...but yes, that was a great twist. How and who is getting Howard out of that apartment? Given that Mike witnessed first hand Lalo at their place, why wasn't there surveillance on the apartment?
lol, Oh I dont know. I think there are elements that dont misdirect. But yes they do enjoy a good carrot. Better than a stick I guess.
Lalo noticed that Tio's phone was tapped; he deduced that Gus did it; he falsely told Tio, for Gus's ears, that he was going to kill Gus that night; Mike pulled his security to concentrate on Gus's location; and Lalo became free to walk the streets of ABQ.
I would call my feeling for Kim more admiration than affection, but she is clearly an attractive lady. I find smart, independent, and ambitious women very attractive. I have been with one for over ten years. She is a casino manager and takes no prisoners, but she is also caring and a mentor to many of her employees. I was raised by a strong and beautiful mother and she and my father were truly a great team. The leader of our extended family was my Aunt on my father's side. She became a self made millionaire in her middle 20's. She was the first woman in the world to manage and own a television station (KOTV, Tulsa, Oklahoma). She once bailed out Walt Disney when he ran out of money to build the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim, California. I still have a picture of her cutting the ribbon at the opening of the hotel. You can read about my Aunt as she has her own page on Wikipedia. Maria Helen Smith (Alvarez). No, I did not contribute to the article, but I believe it is mostly accurate. Yes indeed, I admit to being attracted to strong, independent and ambitious women. When Kim turned that car around and made that U-turn, I admired her greatly. It showed her loyalty to Jimmy and her sense of responsibility to see a project through that she helped hatch. She was not going to leave Jimmy in a trench hole taking grenades by himself.
I'm not sure, but I think when Lalo saw the cockroach down in the tunnel when he had just made the phone call Jimmy came to his mind.
