You're right and unfortunately not many entertainment factions including sports show much regard for fans anymore.
Yeah- I used to love ESPN but it's really gone downhill. For instance, they cram as many college b'ball games as possible into the weekend- every 2 hours- when they must be aware many games last over 2 hours regularly and then overtime is not uncommon. Many times I've tuned in to watch my UVA team- generally a top 10 team in recent years- only to have some game of minor teams running over. There's been numerous times when I missed the majority of the 1st half- once there was like less than a minute or two remaining. UVA games usually go pretty quickly because they rarely foul, so much less stoppages. But games with more stoppages- esp. now that there are long ones for reviews- can easily exceed 2 1/2 hours. But ESPN cares more about getting in more games than ensuring high-quality presentations. But these types of situations are indicative of the more widespread problem nowadays of lack of customer service. But let me stop since this is way OT and I'm treading close to- if not already in- Old Man Yelling Get Off My Lawn territory. To bring back on-topic, while I hate the delays between seasons of BCS, I'm giving VG and co. a pass because they do have such high standards in all aspects of creation/production and put out top-of-the-line shows. It's just really frustrating that before the final season the usual lag has been drawn out even more due to covid- and now possibly even longer due to Bob's medical issues (though any delay pales next to concerns for his health). Many series will have been born and died in the time between season 5 and 6 of BCS...
I don't think the delays in latter seasons of hit shows are about "such high standards" so much as contract obligations, other priorities/conflicts, and star negotiating power that often becomes a game of chicken with the production company and studio. You have a star like, say, Banks or even a lesser character like Hule. The actor knows he's being written into the show in a way no other actor can reasonably replace him. He hires a different, high powered agent/attorney and starts renegotiate the contract and threatens to not appear for the shoots unless they can come to terms. This kind of thing is why Sopranos was delayed and other shows were delayed or cancelled. If you can't come to an agreement with all the actors, you can't shoot.
Was there any sort of behind the scenes stuff holding BCS back in between seasons? I started watching season 1, 4 shows in, think it was pretty clever how they worked Tuco and Nacho in.
It is criminal that Jonathan Banks didn’t get an Emmy for that one. Almost as bad as Paul Newman losing the Oscar with “The Verdict.”
I have a friend who never watches any new series anymore until they are all finished, that way he can through word of mouth hear if it ended good or bad. If it ended bad or unresolved or whatever, he simply doesn't watch any of it. Not sure how he pulls that off without getting some type of spoilers, but it seems to work for him.
It's the only way an actor who does a good job on a hit show will be paid what he's worth. Gandolfini played chicken with HBO for months or years, with both sides vowing to walk away at one time or another, but in the end HBO agreed to pay him $1 million per episode, and the show went on. It's common practice now.
Hmm really no actor is worth a mil an episode, even if money is there, let everyone get raises. He didn't come out looking too good when he demanded it at that time.
The six castmembers on Friends and the main characters on Seinfeld were each earning $1 million per episode by the time those shows wrapped. So apparently the network disagrees with you. A million dollars ain't what it used to be and Gandolfini was well advised to play the game of chicken and hold out for what he knew he was worth. Frankly, I think Odenkirk should too. This is the role of his career, he's no spring chicken and I think his salary is not much above $250,000 per episode.
Odenkirk is one of the producers of the show, if I am not mistaken. Trust me, he's making great money.
It's absurd no matter how good the actor is when you think about it, but that's the business. I'll never get the love for Friends. Would anyone be interested in talking about past seasons here ? Since I'm doing the re-watch, read some others have or are, thought we could talk some old plot points maybe..
Getting the production credit is just a way to further justify his $250,000 per episode paycheck, but for carrying this show as the lead actor he should probably be getting a lot more. Sure, I'd talk about past seasons. To reply to your point, though, since you don't like friends but do like BCS one would think you'd support the idea that Odenkirk is worth more than the actors on Friends. I think it is unlikely for TV show actors to have that negotiated into their contract.
Glad to hear Bob is recovering well from his "mini" MI. They will be back to shooting full schedule soon. Since they postponed major shooting due to Bob's health issue, traffic through downtown is much lighter. I can always tell when they are on a full shooting schedule. Besides the dozens of shiny 18 wheelers lining the parking spots of downtown streets, traffic is a bit more congested than usual.
That's what he's making per episode based on the press reports I've seen, but if you've seen reports to the contrary you should give the figure. The production credit is often given as a way to bump up a salary for lead actors while complying with the contract and studio policies.
Well according to this article, he's at $200,000 per episode. 'Better Call Saul' Actor Bob Odenkirk Earns Almost the Same Salary as Bryan Cranston Got on 'Breaking Bad' If anyone has actual real information to the contrary that would be relevant, but "I would think" or "I highly doubt" don't really cut it.
Listen, it cuts it if the premise is what one thinks or doubts. Why are you always trying to pick a fight with everyone here? You can join in our reindeer games without being so adversarial.
I get that, but I posted my source and you disagreed without having any source of your own, apparently. I don't think it's unreasonable or adversarial to ask for real information if you're going to disagree with a figure I cited--that's all I meant by "doesn't cut it."
