I think in the case of BB, it was a way for AMC to stretch their most popular show out for an additional year. While I’ll miss BCS when it’s over, I’m glad they’re not going that route with it.
What they'll do is have Kim get a new identity and have her practice her particular brand of unethical public interest law somewhere else. She'll have her own series. Better Kall Kim. Better Get Giselle. Or maybe a prequel to BCS . . . before she worked for HH&M. Giselle Goes to College. Maybe a prequel for Chuck. Or a combination prequel and sequel for Nacho.
What I most want to see is a third and final new series by Gilligan/ Gould that’s set after the events of Breaking Bad. In addition to a new cast of characters, they could bring back anyone still left alive, so what they do in this last BCS season could be crucial.
My prediction(s): Kim goes with Lalo the cartel guy to save Jimmy. It's pretty obvious. She's brainy and as Lalo said already, she's out of Jimmy's league. Lalo needs a brainy lawyer / GF to help him launder his cartel drug money. i.e. Kim goes to the Dark Side to save Jimmy. Nacho dies. I pretty much only watch it because of Mike Ermantraut.
I have lots of thoughts on this whole saga (and it's one of my favorite media franchises ever), but I'll limit it to this question for now: When we meet Saul in s02e08 of Breaking Bad, he's a true sleazeball. He recommends killing a witness out of nowhere and sexually harasses Francesca with no one else around. He actually becomes LESS of a d-bag as Breaking Bad progresses, presumably as the writers became more comfortable writing Saul in a likable way. So is there something organic they can do in BCS season 6 to make the chronologically-upcoming sleaziness make sense? Because that's really not Jimmy. And even when he's "acting as Saul" in BCS s5, it's very dialed in. I'm willing to suspend disbelief a little bit and admit that the writers didn't have everything 100% planned out in 2009 (obviously!), but to me this is the biggest glaring error in continuity. My dream is that one day someone who hasn't seen BB will be able to turn on BCS and watch it all the way through, and then turn on BB and it'll all be relatively seamless. But maybe that's unrealistic.
As far as Kim's fate, I think there are a lot of options, but I don't think they'll kill her off. I think the cold-open teaser from the episode 405 is the biggest hint we have: Quite a Ride (this scene is set during Ozymandias in BB, presumably). Yeah, making Kim leave via Ed Galbraith might come off as lazy/redundant, as Walt/Saul/Jesse have all done it at this point in the franchise, but chronologically it makes sense, as she'd be the first one to do it in the timeline. Maybe Nacho too. And to have Francesca ready to take a call on an agreed-upon time (in the 405 flash-forward) seems like it would be pointing toward Kim. Now, will there be a reunion in 2012 Omaha between Kim and "Gene"? Personally I think that'd be lazy too. But I also believe they're going to come up with some interesting things that NONE of us would predict. And hopefully they won't strain continuity too much!
Then there's the question of Lalo's fate, and it's tricky. In BB, it seems like Gus thinks Lalo is dead and Saul thinks both Lalo and Nacho are alive. And this is 3-4 years after the timeline we've reached in BCS. In BB s04e11, Gus tells Hector that all the Salamancas are dead, but he doesn't mention Lalo/Eduardo in his litany (the writers had mentioned "Lalo" in BBs02e08 but not specifically made him a Salamanca yet). If he's dead, it's something that has been accomplished well before BBs04e11, as Gus doesn't feel like reminding Hector. But if he's alive, presumably Gus & Hector both think he's dead? (Is this still from the botched assassination attempt and hoaxed call at the end of BCS s05e10? I somehow doubt it -- that would mean that Gus & Lalo don't interact at all in BCS s06 at all, and that seems unlikely to me. But either way, obviously Lalo isn't treated as a threat during BB by Gus.). But Lalo IS treated as a threat by Saul in BB, who assumes that Jesse & Walt are cartel operatives sent by Lalo in BB s02e08 and throws Nacho under the bus. (This is a throwaway line played as a joke, but the writers decided to dig in and build tons of elaborate retcon around it). So if Lalo (or Nacho) die in BCS s06, that will be information that will be kept from Jimmy-Saul. So I'm guessing that BCS s06 jumps forward in time quite a bit, as BCS s05 is still 3-4 years before BB starts on the timeline, and that Lalo stays a threat for most of that. If Saul were threatened by Lalo in 2004 and then abducted in 2008, why would he still assume Lalo is behind it? That suggests to me that Lalo's an ongoing threat to Saul. I do think that it's likely that Lalo either dies (and Gus/Hector believe it) or fakes his death in s06 of BCS. I guess it's possible that only Saul and a rogue cartel gang know he's alive at some point? Otherwise I can't quite make it make sense. A wildcard option is that BCS overlaps on the timeline with BB in a significant way, and that could definitely alter some assumed canon is unexpected ways. (I just hope they don't try to de-age Aaron Paul again!).
Read that the last season practically explains BB entry plot line. Anyway..As long as Kim doesn’t die.
Interesting takes on what may happen. I have to say I forgot about most of it , only by reading here did I get flashback to the ending with Lalo. I can't see Nacho surviving this , wouldn't it be like Jesse the second ?! But I am sure they'll have him get his Father out. I stopped caring about Kim, she became tedious. That sounds very plausible though that she may work for Lalo or.. she goes ahead with awful plan against Howard and winds up in prison. I was surprised about post of wanting a show after it all .. the ending of this will be after and so was El Camino (to my opinion disappointing results). Let this wrap up well and bye bye to BBad characters.
One thing I noticed when rewatching seasons 1-4 for the first time last year: Jimmy finds out in S1 that Sandpiper has medical supplies shipped across state lines--originating from Lincoln, Nebraska. We know Kim has mentioned as having been born in the state, and Jimmy as Gene is hiding out there in the post-BB continuity. Sandpiper is seemingly returning as a plot point next season, so will this link to NE become significant? Anyway, they've padded the plot enough with references to the state to give themselves story options. Found this in the Season 5 thread from last year: There’ll Be ’A Lot Of Sadness’ In Final Season of ’Better Call Saul’
Good catch. I had missed all the Lincoln, Nebraska references. In hindsight, seems like a bad place to try to hide your identity if you're Jimmy.
It may just be the creative team leading viewers down the path to believe the Nebraska connection is more important than it really is. Or it will tie in to the last season, but not in a way that we expect--a bit like the ricin load or Walt having the vacuum cleaner repairman's number did in Breaking Bad.
Did he choose Nebraska because that's where Kim went at some point before Jimmy changed his identity (i.e., he wanted to be near her for some reason)? Also, do we know how long he has been "Gene"? A year-by-year timeline of important events would be helpful. I'm always getting confused what happened when and before or after what.
Seems like the "Gene" flash-forward stuff taking place after Breaking Bad represents less than a year's time, but that is just a guess and I can't remember if they've stated otherwise. Seems like Jimmy/Saul/Gene ending up in Nebraska is significant somehow. Aren't the users of the Vacuum Repairman's services able to choose where they go to some extent?
The BB wiki says that Saul & Walt retain Ed Galbraith's services in late March 2010, and Felina is set in Sept 2010. It also says that all the Gene stuff happens in 2012, but I'm not sure what that's based on. At the very least, Gene obviously packed on some lbs! (Probably "getting high on his own supply" at Cinnabon) Personally, I'd initially hoped that the Omaha material was only 6 months or so after Ozymandias, so we could see dark-rimmed-glasses Walter pay Gene a visit on his way from NH to NM. After all, he knew exactly where Saul asked to go (why on earth would Saul have told him that info at the beginning of Granite State? seems like a plot hole to an extent, or a serious breach of judgment on Saul's part). But seems like that's not to be.
The timeline on the Wiki is pretty comprehensive but definitely has some typos and possible inconsistencies/errors. Timeline
Great resource. I don't remember a lot of that stuff . . . or I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Yeah, that season (for the most part) lacked tbe energy of the earlier ones. I feel like they didn't make up for thr Chuck storyline being over. They also need to tone down the Superman Mike stuff, it was so unbelievable when he beat up a group of dudes in their 20s.
I disagree about season 5 lacking energy (or do you mean a specific energy?). Season 5, in my opinion, was the most exciting season of BCS yet. All the Lalo stuff, the intricate dealings with Hank & the DEA, Jimmy-Saul beginning his work with the cartel, Kim working with Jimmy against her own client, Nacho as double agent, Gus burning down his own restaurant, the whole bagman incident, the apartment standoff with Lalo, Kim indulging her vengeful side... it's all gold!
