Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by MortSahlFan, Aug 14, 2019.
For me: Tom Petty & Heartbreakers after Stan Lynch. I've never really recovered
Black Sabbath after Ozzy departure
This is the biggest: Replacements without Bob Stinson
Yeah, that only led to Album of the Year Grammy and headlong status at Woodstock.
By what standard is A Trick of the Tail considered a drop off?
Does that mean the album was good?
Metallica when Newsted left. They could have compensated by appointing someone like Scott Reeder or Pepper Keenan on bass, but they went with Trujillo as he wouldn't challenge the other members or rock the boat. Not trying to denigrate Trujillo but his playing style doesn't seem to suit Metallica's live sound and performance the way Burton's or Newsted's did. Also, the fact that Metallica chose someone who wouldn't push them marked the point when they stopped trying to push the creative boundaries as a band. They've never been a creative force since.
Newsted was possibly the most dedicated member of the band and their biggest supporter, it's shameful the way he was treated and not allowed to really properly participate in the creative process. I can't blame him for finally leaving. Ever since he left the live intensity simply has not been there (and the albums have been either unlistenable, forced or unfocused).
Oh and definitely Genesis when Hackett left in 77. The remaining members should have just changed the band name at that point.
How anyone can call the current line up of Yes credible without Chris Squire there is beyond me (and I'm not even a Yes fan).
Rainbow after Dio left and then again when Bonnet was replaced by JLT - went from epic hard rock into bland pop-rock nonsense.
Another one I've just remembered - QOTSA after Nick Oliveri was fired. Pretty much haven't been the same band since, essentially a Homme solo vehicle. No intensity at all, studio output from 2008 on has been mostly poor and really forced creatively.
Hawkwind after Lemmy was fired in 1975 - the band was alright afterwards but not in the same league - and again when Alan Davey left in 2006 or so, their live performance had been stellar in the early to mid 2000s but it lost all its intensity when he left.
Notice how a lot of these positions seem to be bassists, usually ones who do some of the songwriting - IMO a great bass player is crucial to a band's sound and live performance in terms of drive and intensity, especially with hard rock and metal bands.
Oh yes. And double the reason why they dropped off and needed to disband
I'd argue that Hackett leaving made for a bigger drop, although I still love the post Hackett records.
Clash after Mick Jones leaves....or gets fired....
Big Brother and the Holding Company after Janis left.
Canned Heat first Alan Wilson died and then Bob the Bear Hite.
I've always had the sense that his chair was moved closer to the door. His desk was moved into the hallway, if you catch my drift.
For me it was Thin Lizzy after Robbo was fired from the band.
Some might argue it was after Gary Moore quit for the second time but their music lost that fire for me when Robbo was sacked.
Deep Purple when Blackmore quit the MKIII lineup
Queensryche when Chris DeGarmo left the band.
Off topic as he did not quit or was fired but the Allman Brothers when Duane died.
Humble Pie when Peter Frampton left
Take it you were too busy to check out Page 1, post #5, huh?
Ozzy after Randys death.
Deep Purple when Ian Gillan left and Joe Lynn Turner joined.
Ultravox When John Foxx left
....where's my coffee?....
I think Brian and Roger have made it pretty clear that they aren't "Queen", and they have no intention to make new Queen albums without Freddie.
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