Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by MortSahlFan, Aug 14, 2019.
Great album though.
I don't agree at all with the Peter Gabriel leaving Genesis example. A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering are two of their very best albums.
I wouldn't say they got better, since I liked Never Say Die, but they simply refocused and came out swinging. Those original two albums with Dio are classics.
Yes, but 'Octave' was still a big drop off before he walked.
Plus overall I prefer their 80s output, and Duke is at least tied as my favorite album of theirs.
I saw them on that tour. They were pretty spectacular. Tommy Bolin was superb.
I can agree with Peter Wolf leaving j geils band.
I think the Dio albums weren't a drop off for sabbath
Although 5150 and hagar annoy a lot of folks, i dont think it was a drop off particularly.
I don't think Gabriel leaving Genesis was particularly a drop off, and Then There Were Three is one of my favourites, so i couldn't agree with the Hackett departure either.
Waters leaving Floyd changed them, but i don't see that as a particularly big drop off.
Jayhawks after Mark Olson left
I definitely can't see how there is anything but a massive IMPROVEMENT from Never Say Die to Heaven and Hell. I would say there was a MASSIVE drop-off after Mob Rules when Dio left.
Jay Bennett being fired from Wilco.
Huge drop off in quality of work.
Mick Taylor leaving the Stones.
Mat Sharp leaving Weezer.
The Guess Who after Randy Bachman left.
Yeah, you have three distinct changes when Cale, Mo and Lou left.
Certainly not a dropoff since they followed The Final Cut.
It wasn't just Sandy leaving - Trevor Lucas was a intrinsic part of that line-up.
'Gottle O'Gear' is a desperate record, but finally Messrs. Swarbrick and Pegg managed to persuade Simon Nicol to return to the band, which gave us the pretty good 'Bonny Bunch Of Roses'.
Nah, the last Ozzy albums were a decline. Dio brought a return to form. So they actually got better. Maybe not a return to their pinnacle, but it was an improvement.
Mo didn't leave until the band was effectively kaput. Perhaps you meant Morrison?
See also: Jane’s Addiction after Eric Avery left.
Come Taste The Band > Stormbringer
But maybe Ritchie left the band mentally while making Stormbringer.
I agree with this, though I'm not sure how much was cause and effect.
Black Sabbath with Dio was an average heavy metal band. The Ozzy era was seminal
Sepultura after Max Cavalera left. They were on the crest of a wave...
Pixies without Kim Deal are a bad joke
Yes after Rick Wakeman left.
Although I do like Relayer but think it lacked the melodic flow of the Wakeman albums which I prefer. I also saw both versions of the band live and feel Patrick Moraz lacked Rick's charisma IMHO.
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